Uploaded March 2026 | Updated September 2026, 3 weeks ago
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The public school system has been damaging our children… but it doesn’t have to be this way.
In this conversation, I sit down with the founders of Infinity Academy, a project-based and nature-rooted school that was created after years of questioning the assumptions behind institutional education.
Gillian, the school’s Curriculum and Instructional Lead, spent more than a decade teaching in public education and repeatedly felt that something about the system wasn’t working. Her work now focuses on project-based learning designed to nurture curiosity, critical thinking, and intrinsic motivation in children.
Jenna, a Registered Nurse and wellness educator, co-founded the school after recognizing similar systemic problems in healthcare and education. Her work helps integrate nature, hands-on learning, and whole-person wellbeing into the educational experience.
Together, they’re building a model where learning follows the child’s interests through questioning, research, creation, and reflection. Their goal is to help children develop agency, curiosity, and the confidence to keep learning long after the classroom.
You’ll Learn:
[00:00] Introduction
[03:40] How public school was designed to crush curiosity
[21:31] The grief, the infinity fountain, and the 30-day scramble to open Infinity Academy
[41:12] What is project-based learning, and what does it look like?
[43:11] Why community beats homeschooling, and what learning looks like at the Academy
[01:04:14] Teaching history without presenting it as an absolute truth
[01:25:49] Sex ed, gender ideology, and the topics deliberately left to parents
[01:48:48] Why "preparing kids for the real world" might be the wrong goal entirely
[01:56:41] Advice for the single mom trapped in the public school system
Learn more from Gillian and Jenna:
Infinity Education | infinityeducation.ca
Infinity Education | instagram.com/infinity_education.inc
Infinity Academy | infinityacademyed.com
Gillian Berard | instagram.com/gillianberard
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The public school system has been damaging our children… but it doesn’t have to be this way.
In this conversation, I sit down with the founders of Infinity Academy, a project-based and nature-rooted school that was created after years of questioning the assumptions behind institutional education.
Gillian, the school’s Curriculum and Instructional Lead, spent more than a decade teaching in public education and repeatedly felt that something about the system wasn’t working. Her work now focuses on project-based learning designed to nurture curiosity, critical thinking, and intrinsic motivation in children.
Jenna, a Registered Nurse and wellness educator, co-founded the school after recognizing similar systemic problems in healthcare and education. Her work helps integrate nature, hands-on learning, and whole-person wellbeing into the educational experience.
Together, they’re building a model where learning follows the child’s interests through questioning, research, creation, and reflection. Their goal is to help children develop agency, curiosity, and the confidence to keep learning long after the classroom.
You’ll Learn:
[00:00] Introduction
[03:40] How public school was designed to crush curiosity
[21:31] The grief, the infinity fountain, and the 30-day scramble to open Infinity Academy
[41:12] What is project-based learning, and what does it look like?
[43:11] Why community beats homeschooling, and what learning looks like at the Academy
[01:04:14] Teaching history without presenting it as an absolute truth
[01:25:49] Sex ed, gender ideology, and the topics deliberately left to parents
[01:48:48] Why "preparing kids for the real world" might be the wrong goal entirely
[01:56:41] Advice for the single mom trapped in the public school system
Learn more from Gillian and Jenna:
Infinity Education | infinityeducation.ca
Infinity Education | instagram.com/infinity_education.inc
Infinity Academy | infinityacademyed.com
Gillian Berard | instagram.com/gillianberard
Find more from Alec:
Alec Zeck | instagram.com/d_alec_zeck
Alec Zeck | https://x.com/Alec_Zeck
The Way Forward | instagram.com/thewayfwrd
The Way Forward is Sponsored By:
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paleovalley.com/thewayforward
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![The Horrible Consequences of Circumcision with Jenna McClelland
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If this conversation hits something you can’t quite shake, you don’t have to sort it out on your own. Jenna offers a coaching program for men who want to understand what’s underneath the patterns they’ve been carrying and actually work through them.
You can start with a free consultation on her website: https://www.alchemizewithjenna.com/
If youre a circumcised man and rage, unworthiness, or the need to prove yourself runs your life, this conversation is for you.
On October 26, 2023, Jenna McClelland woke up sobbing from a dream so vivid she couldn’t move. In it, she watched a newborn boy being circumcised, and the baby locked eyes with her. That moment became the origin of what she now calls the first circumcision healing program for men.
Jenna explains what happens during the procedure, what tissue is removed, and why she sees it as one of the least examined forms of trauma in modern culture. She estimates around 3,000 babies are circumcised daily in the U.S. alone.
The deeper focus is on how this experience may shape the adult male psyche. She connects it to patterns around worth, attachment, and the internal drives many men struggle to name. She also argues that physical restoration alone doesn’t address the underlying imprint.
You’ll also hear the parts often left out: the role of industry, ongoing religious practices, limited reporting on complications, and why she believes the conversation is beginning to shift.
Some of this is difficult to hear, but it offers a clear perspective on why the topic reaches far beyond the procedure itself.
You’ll learn:
[00:00] Introduction
[03:29] What pulled a woman deep into the most unspoken taboo in mens health
[14:53] Debunked claims, global statistics, and what really happens in that room
[32:08] The cellular imprint left on every circumcised man and the mother wound it creates
[41:50] The matrix man: how society programs men to chase a standard they can never reach
[53:407] Trauma as a living entity and how it spiritually amputates a mans power
[01:06:47] Everything thats actually removed and the medieval decision to take even more
[01:14:59] How demonic forces infiltrated religion and what those rituals still look like today
[01:33:49] The real reason so many circumcised men fear knives and share the same nightmare
[01:37:05] Billion-dollar industries that need circumcision to keep existing
[01:43:09] From the four venomous dragon heads to vertical alignment; Jennas healing framework
[02:02:16] Intact men suffer too: the global pandemic of genital shame nobody talks about
Related The Way Forward episodes:
Blindfold Vision, Luminous Children & The New Way of Being with Dr. Edith Ubuntu Chan | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jhv2b5auS3c
Find more from Jenna:
Jenna McClelland | https://www.instagram.com/jenna_mcclelland_
Jenna McClelland | http://www.youtube.com/@UCMB0ViHIPW0Men4mB2RRqsw
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![Exposing the Most Dangerous Childbirth Myths & Procedures with Dr. Nathan Riley
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When did we decide women’s bodies couldn’t be trusted to give birth?
Childbirth is often the first place we’re taught to override intuition in favor of authority. In this episode, I speak with Dr. Nathan Riley about how modern systems shape pregnancy and birth — not just medically, but psychologically and culturally.
This conversation isn’t about rebellion or nostalgia. It’s about responsibility, trust, and what happens when we’re trained to hand those over.
We talk about natural birth, home birth, and the power of doing less instead of more. C-section rates keep climbing and fear is introduced early through institutional rituals. Education, compliance, and credentialed authority train us to outsource knowing, especially during pregnancy and birth. From midwifery to birth trauma, from holistic health to reclaiming responsibility, this conversation connects dots most people never think to question.
If you’re interested in birth sovereignty, health sovereignty, and the deeper implications of how humans enter the world, this episode will challenge you.
Not with ideology, but with lived experience and uncomfortable clarity.
You’ll Learn:
[00:00] Introduction
[04:07] Meeting Dr. Stu Fishbein at a breech delivery talk and the home birth that changed everything
[13:53] Why compulsory education conditions us to trust credentials over critical thinking and clinical experience
[27:53] The alternative health movement is still rooted in materialism
[39:01] The overuse of the word physiology when being directed towards childbirth
[52:35] Where the alternative health space is getting it wrong
[01:06:53] How asking about your own birth transforms your ability to hold space and trust intuition during labor
[01:16:40] Induction risks depend on your provider and why most inductions arent medically necessary
[01:29:14] The HPV and cervical cancer story
[02:02:03] The graphic reality of circumcision
[02:22:10] Why midwives should be the default for prenatal care
[02:50:55] The nuanced case for free birth, the problems with rebirth certifications, and why birth educator replaced midwife
Related The Way Forward Episodes:
Rethinking DNA: Examining the Evidence with Dr. Tom Cowan | https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NpPySD-3tl0
The Heart is Not a Pump: Vortexes, Blood Flow & The Seat of the Soul with Dr. Stephen Hussey | https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=KL68_0b-nrg
The Great Birth Revival: Birth Certificates, Circumcision, Postpartum & More with Veda Ray | https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RqGsCxKHYZ8
Flipping Birth Upside Down with Eyla Cuenca | https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nM2ULauj_nc
Resources Mentioned:
The Secret Life of the Unborn Child: Dr. Thomas Verny on the Embodied Mind, Epigenetics, and Transgenerational Healing | https://bit.ly/4qt63gr
50 Human Studies, in Utero, Conducted in Modern China, Indicate Extreme Risk for Prenatal Ultrasound by Jim West | https://amzn.to/4qrJTv0 or https://amzn.to/4qAjbRg
Learn more from Dr. Nathan Riley:
Born Free Method | http://www.bornfreemethod.com/
Beloved Holistics | http://www.belovedholistics.com/
2026 Born Free Twins-Breech Gathering | http://www.bornfreemethod.com/conference
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https://www.instagram.com/thewayfwrd/
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