Uploaded March 2025 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago

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This is an early clip from our podcast with John Vervaeke and Jordan Hall, which releases today at 5PM ET. In this clip, they discuss John Vervaeke's proposal on orientation and self deception, prompting a deep dive into Dante's Inferno and the nature of lying.

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The painting in our thumbnail is from Joseph Anton Koch's fresco cycle depicting scenes from Dante's Inferno (1825-28). The image is listed on wiki commons with attribution to the photographer Saiko. We cropped in on the image, here is a link to the license page: commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Joseph_Anton_Koch,_inferno,_1825-28,_11.jpg


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