Uploaded November 2022 | Updated September 2026, 3 weeks ago

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It was Jon’s 60th birthday this week. And it had him asking, “Can I live longer?” So we’re talking with Celine Halioua, the founder and CEO of Loyal, a biotech startup with a mission to extend a dog’s lifespan – and she believes that if it’s successful, this type of drug could work on humans too. Jon and Celine talk about Silicon Valley’s culture, and ask the question: just because we can do something, should we? Plus, Jon gives staff writers Kasaun Wilson and Alexa Loftus a fashion show – not great for a non-visual medium like a podcast, but it can conveniently be seen here! The first half of Season 2 is streaming now on Apple TV+.

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