Uploaded June 2026 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago
In this episode of “The David Frum Show,” The Atlantic’s David Frum opens with his thoughts on the Brexit vote, which was cast 10 years ago this month. David explains why Brexit has not only been a failure but has led to years of political instability in the U.K. in the decade following the British vote to leave the European Union.
Then, David is joined by professor David W. Blight to discuss the blood-soaked aftermath of the Civil War and the stumbling project to bring freedom to the former slaves of the South through the Thirteenth, Fourteenth, and Fifteenth amendments. David and Blight discuss Trump’s project to gut the Fourteenth Amendment to say that some people born on American soil will no longer be Americans.
Finally, David ends the episode with a discussion of “1873” by Liaquat Ahamed. David reflects on the financial crisis of that year and the long price depression that followed.
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00:00 Introduction
01:13 A Decade of UK Turmoil
04:10 Brexit Economic Damage
06:28 America Role in Brexit
10:35 Professor David W. Blight
11:22 Why the 14th Amendment Matters Now
16:48 Birthright Citizenship Fight
25:47 Federalizing the Bill of Rights
43:46 Reconstruction's Legacy
49:32 1873 by Liaquat Ahamed
In this episode of “The David Frum Show,” The Atlantic’s David Frum opens with his thoughts on the Brexit vote, which was cast 10 years ago this month. David explains why Brexit has not only been a failure but has led to years of political instability in the U.K. in the decade following the British vote to leave the European Union.
Then, David is joined by professor David W. Blight to discuss the blood-soaked aftermath of the Civil War and the stumbling project to bring freedom to the former slaves of the South through the Thirteenth, Fourteenth, and Fifteenth amendments. David and Blight discuss Trump’s project to gut the Fourteenth Amendment to say that some people born on American soil will no longer be Americans.
Finally, David ends the episode with a discussion of “1873” by Liaquat Ahamed. David reflects on the financial crisis of that year and the long price depression that followed.
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00:00 Introduction
01:13 A Decade of UK Turmoil
04:10 Brexit Economic Damage
06:28 America Role in Brexit
10:35 Professor David W. Blight
11:22 Why the 14th Amendment Matters Now
16:48 Birthright Citizenship Fight
25:47 Federalizing the Bill of Rights
43:46 Reconstruction's Legacy
49:32 1873 by Liaquat Ahamed
