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In this episode of American Alchemy, Jesse Michels hosts Diana Walsh Pasulka, author of American Cosmic, and Colonel Karl Nell, former UAP task force representative, for a fascinating discussion on the intersection of UFOs, religion, and science. They explore connections between modern UAP phenomena and ancient religious concepts, touching on angels, St. Francis, Plato’s Allegory of the Cave, and esoteric space exploration.

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Chapters

00:00 - Introduction
02:54 - The Case For Aliens (First Principles Thinking)
06:18 - Testimonial Evidence
10:40 - Biblical UFOs
17:02 - St. Francis & Angels
19:37 - Non-Disclosure From the Government
22:26 - Cosmism
25:51 - Angel Hierarchies (Modern Frameworks)
29:35 - Allegory of the Cave / The Apocalypse
32:01 - Mysticism / Egypt
34:42 - Technology
38:00 - Angels & Demons
39:51 - Hereticon Talk
41:35 - The Antichrist
43:30 - Rene Girard
45:30 - Plato
51:25 - Esotericism
55:50 - Religion is Real
01:02:28 - Occult NASA
01:09:10 - Tyler
01:16:34 - The Invisibles
01:19:23 - Outro

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