Uploaded August 2026 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago
When founders brag, they brag about how much they’ve raised. It’s rarely about what they’ve built.
Mary Holland Nader (@maryhollandnader) is a former Wall Street analyst, star of Hulu’s Love Thy Nader and founder of the fintech company Mary & Pip. She’s building her company differently than the hypergrowth crowd — on purpose, for a purpose.
And in our conversation, I tell her what I tell every founder before they take anyone’s money. 🎧 Listen to the full episode of A Bit of Optimism wherever you get your podcasts.
When founders brag, they brag about how much they’ve raised. It’s rarely about what they’ve built.
Mary Holland Nader (@maryhollandnader) is a former Wall Street analyst, star of Hulu’s Love Thy Nader and founder of the fintech company Mary & Pip. She’s building her company differently than the hypergrowth crowd — on purpose, for a purpose.
And in our conversation, I tell her what I tell every founder before they take anyone’s money. 🎧 Listen to the full episode of A Bit of Optimism wherever you get your podcasts.
