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Bishop Bell on ‘the battle for the Bible’ – is there hope for Wales?
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Dear marriage supporter,
Is Wales a foretaste of where the Church of England is heading? Bishop Stuart Bell joins me to discuss. Stuart has been in ministry for 54 years. He left the Church in Wales after its 2021 vote to allow blessings for same-sex couples. He now serves as a bishop in the Anglican Convocation in Europe (ACE) and pastors a lively congregation near Aberystwyth. Watch the full video here:
Why does Wales matter? In September 2021, the Church in Wales authorised services to bless same-sex civil marriages and partnerships. In July this year, it elected Bishop Cherry Vann as the UK’s first female archbishop. She is in a same-sex civil partnership. Meanwhile, the Church of England has commended “Prayers of Love and Faith” for same-sex couples and, in July 2024, backed stand-alone services in principle.
Stuart is crystal clear about marriage. He says that to make the claim that “doctrine hasn’t changed”, while simultaneously blessing same-sex unions is “duplicitous really”. He says the presenting issue is “the battle for the Bible”. The Biblical pattern of marriage, he says, is simple and good for people: public, exclusive, between a man and a woman, with intimacy following covenant. Therefore, as he puts it: “We don’t need to revisit it. We need to obey it.” He emphasises that marriage is “exclusively for one man and one woman for life”.
He describes what many in Wales now face. Clergy and lay people committed to historic teaching feel pulled in every direction. Some are leaving for orthodox Anglican settings. Others are being replaced by revisionists and we’re seeing congregations collapse.
Stuart goes on to say the effects of what’s happening reach far beyond Wales. He warns the Welsh move “has torn the fabric of the communion”. Responses from across the Anglican world echo that concern, including statements from Gafcon and the Church of Nigeria rejecting the Welsh election. Stuart says that “the focus of the world is on Wales, but not for a good reason”.
Yet collapse is not inevitable, he insists.
The Bible Society’s England and Wales figures show monthly attendance among 18-24s rising from 4% to 16% in six years, with notable growth in streams outside the Anglican Church. And fresh UK polling shows most Gen Z (people born from 1997-2012) still want to marry, with fewer than in the past calling marriage ‘irrelevant’.
C4M supporters come from all faiths and none. Our priority is to champion real marriage in public life, defend the freedom to say it, and help the next generation choose it. The Church, established and otherwise, must play a huge part in achieving this vision, by returning to the Biblical definition of marriage.
If you’re not yet supporting C4M financially but would like to help, please click the donate button at c4m.org.uk
Dr Tony Rucinski
facebook.com/coalition4marriage
Bishop Bell on ‘the battle for the Bible’ – is there hope for Wales?
Summarise
Dear marriage supporter,
Is Wales a foretaste of where the Church of England is heading? Bishop Stuart Bell joins me to discuss. Stuart has been in ministry for 54 years. He left the Church in Wales after its 2021 vote to allow blessings for same-sex couples. He now serves as a bishop in the Anglican Convocation in Europe (ACE) and pastors a lively congregation near Aberystwyth. Watch the full video here:
Why does Wales matter? In September 2021, the Church in Wales authorised services to bless same-sex civil marriages and partnerships. In July this year, it elected Bishop Cherry Vann as the UK’s first female archbishop. She is in a same-sex civil partnership. Meanwhile, the Church of England has commended “Prayers of Love and Faith” for same-sex couples and, in July 2024, backed stand-alone services in principle.
Stuart is crystal clear about marriage. He says that to make the claim that “doctrine hasn’t changed”, while simultaneously blessing same-sex unions is “duplicitous really”. He says the presenting issue is “the battle for the Bible”. The Biblical pattern of marriage, he says, is simple and good for people: public, exclusive, between a man and a woman, with intimacy following covenant. Therefore, as he puts it: “We don’t need to revisit it. We need to obey it.” He emphasises that marriage is “exclusively for one man and one woman for life”.
He describes what many in Wales now face. Clergy and lay people committed to historic teaching feel pulled in every direction. Some are leaving for orthodox Anglican settings. Others are being replaced by revisionists and we’re seeing congregations collapse.
Stuart goes on to say the effects of what’s happening reach far beyond Wales. He warns the Welsh move “has torn the fabric of the communion”. Responses from across the Anglican world echo that concern, including statements from Gafcon and the Church of Nigeria rejecting the Welsh election. Stuart says that “the focus of the world is on Wales, but not for a good reason”.
Yet collapse is not inevitable, he insists.
The Bible Society’s England and Wales figures show monthly attendance among 18-24s rising from 4% to 16% in six years, with notable growth in streams outside the Anglican Church. And fresh UK polling shows most Gen Z (people born from 1997-2012) still want to marry, with fewer than in the past calling marriage ‘irrelevant’.
C4M supporters come from all faiths and none. Our priority is to champion real marriage in public life, defend the freedom to say it, and help the next generation choose it. The Church, established and otherwise, must play a huge part in achieving this vision, by returning to the Biblical definition of marriage.
If you’re not yet supporting C4M financially but would like to help, please click the donate button at c4m.org.uk
Dr Tony Rucinski
facebook.com/coalition4marriage










![The Cousin Marriage Debate - Tim Dieppe interview with Tony Rucinski
Dear marriage supporter,
Tim Dieppe is Head of Public Policy at Christian Concern. He sat down with me to unpack the arguments around cousin marriage from a recent article he wrote and why this matters for marriage as a public institution. You can listen to Tim explain his arguments fully in our discusion here:
This debate has been back in the news. NHS England has faced scrutiny over training materials that reportedly spoke of “potential benefits” of first-cousin marriage, and suggested genetic risks had been “exaggerated”.
Tim’s argument begins with a simple premise about what marriage is: “I think marriage is meant to be a public institution endorsed by the state and protected by law”. That is why he argues the cousin marriage question cannot be shrugged off as a technicality.
He presses a practical point that is often missed: “Let’s ensure that [all] marriages are registered.” Registration is the gateway to legal protection, particularly for women, when relationships break down. C4M has written about this previously.
A wider theme in the discussion is kinship and coercion. Dieppe argues that restricting close-kin marriage historically helped loosen the grip of coercive clan structures: “The effect of this was to effectively undermine the clan system whereby people are very loyal to their clan”. In that reading, the issue is not only health risk. It is also about freedom and the shape of civic life, he explains.
Tim also tackles a common Christian objection head on: “People say the Bible doesn’t prohibit cousin marriage, therefore we shouldn’t”. His response is that public policy has to deal with modern safeguarding, women’s legal protections, and the reality of coercion.
This subject matters because marriage remains the dominant family form, not a niche choice. The Office for National Statistics estimates that married couple families were still the most common family type in the UK in 2024, making up 65.1% of all families.
Coalition for Marriage supporters come from all faiths and none, and from across the political spectrum. Our common purpose is simple: to champion the original definition of marriage as the union of one man and one woman, and to do so calmly and lawfully, drawing on evidence about family stability and child wellbeing.
If you’re not already supporting C4M financially but would like to help, please click the donate button at http://www.c4m.org.uk
Dr Tony Rucinski
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