Uploaded August 2026 | Updated September 2026, 17 hours ago
Toward the end of her first Spirit Gym conversation with Paul ( paulchek.com/blog/podcast-episodes/382-the-return-of-the-divine-feminine-isnt-optional-anymore-with-dr-joanna-kujawa ), Dr. Joanna Kujawa described how Baba Yaga insisted on being included in her recent book, Alien Goddess: UFOs, AI and the Goddesses of Ascension ( amzn.to/465oHDg ).
Joanna and Paul continue their conversation about Baba Yaga and her connection to Mother Earth as the soul and guardian of our planet who has had quite enough of our human shenanigans and isn’t putting up with it any longer this week on Spirit Gym.
Learn more about Joanna’s work on her website ( joannakujawa.com ) and Substack ( joannakujawa.substack.com ). Find her on social media via Facebook ( facebook.com/joanna.kujawa.author ), Instagram ( instagram.com/drjoannakujawa.author ) and YouTube ( youtube.com/channel/UCgqYaV1qtPD720FTQHsEAeg ).
0:00 Intro
7:01 Could Baba Yaga be Mother Earth, the spirit of our planet?
10:50 “The issue is authenticity.”
19:22 Joanna felt a sense of urgency while writing her book, Alien Goddess.
28:57 Becoming the change you want to see in the world by making small choices.
36:53 The four levels of consciousness.
44:55 Ignorance versus wisdom.
48:51 “Mystics see in the light what scientists try to measure but seldom get.”
1:02:02 The Ahrimanic deception.
1:12:55 The looming conflict ahead: Consciousness, how we define it and what we can do to prevent its suppression.
1:29:30 Are we too focused on the untruths?
1:35:50 Will this delusion of merging body and machine eventually end well?
1:43:52 A necessary sacrifice.
1:58:04 Ascending and descending waves of consciousness.
2:03:04 Why Baba Yaga is angry with us.
2:16:31 “We know what they are.”
2:30:24 Be a spiritual warrior in the face of oppression and suppression from AI and too much tech.
2:45:05 Communicating in liminal and imaginal space.
2:55:50 “As we evolve, God evolves.”
3:00:33 “The best thing you can do for God is to work on yourself.”
Listen to Paul's conversation with Dr. Joanna Kujawa and check out the show notes page on our Spirit Gym website at paulchek.com/blog/podcast-episodes/409-is-mother-earth-baba-yaga-with-dr-joanna-kujawa
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Music Credit: Meet Your Heroes (444Hz), Composed, mixed, mastered and produced by Michael RB Schwartz of Brave Bear Music
Toward the end of her first Spirit Gym conversation with Paul ( paulchek.com/blog/podcast-episodes/382-the-return-of-the-divine-feminine-isnt-optional-anymore-with-dr-joanna-kujawa ), Dr. Joanna Kujawa described how Baba Yaga insisted on being included in her recent book, Alien Goddess: UFOs, AI and the Goddesses of Ascension ( amzn.to/465oHDg ).
Joanna and Paul continue their conversation about Baba Yaga and her connection to Mother Earth as the soul and guardian of our planet who has had quite enough of our human shenanigans and isn’t putting up with it any longer this week on Spirit Gym.
Learn more about Joanna’s work on her website ( joannakujawa.com ) and Substack ( joannakujawa.substack.com ). Find her on social media via Facebook ( facebook.com/joanna.kujawa.author ), Instagram ( instagram.com/drjoannakujawa.author ) and YouTube ( youtube.com/channel/UCgqYaV1qtPD720FTQHsEAeg ).
0:00 Intro
7:01 Could Baba Yaga be Mother Earth, the spirit of our planet?
10:50 “The issue is authenticity.”
19:22 Joanna felt a sense of urgency while writing her book, Alien Goddess.
28:57 Becoming the change you want to see in the world by making small choices.
36:53 The four levels of consciousness.
44:55 Ignorance versus wisdom.
48:51 “Mystics see in the light what scientists try to measure but seldom get.”
1:02:02 The Ahrimanic deception.
1:12:55 The looming conflict ahead: Consciousness, how we define it and what we can do to prevent its suppression.
1:29:30 Are we too focused on the untruths?
1:35:50 Will this delusion of merging body and machine eventually end well?
1:43:52 A necessary sacrifice.
1:58:04 Ascending and descending waves of consciousness.
2:03:04 Why Baba Yaga is angry with us.
2:16:31 “We know what they are.”
2:30:24 Be a spiritual warrior in the face of oppression and suppression from AI and too much tech.
2:45:05 Communicating in liminal and imaginal space.
2:55:50 “As we evolve, God evolves.”
3:00:33 “The best thing you can do for God is to work on yourself.”
Listen to Paul's conversation with Dr. Joanna Kujawa and check out the show notes page on our Spirit Gym website at paulchek.com/blog/podcast-episodes/409-is-mother-earth-baba-yaga-with-dr-joanna-kujawa
Thanks to our awesome sponsors!
• Spirit Gym myspiritgym.com (sign up for Paul’s live, virtual masterclass to learn how to live the life of your dreams today!)
• CHEK Institute paul.chekinstitute.com/spiritgym (learn about our Eat, Move and Be Healthy coaching program today!)
• Paleovalley paleovalley.com/chek15 (save 15% on your first purchase)
• Organifi organifi.com/chek20 (save 20% on your purchase by using the code CHEK20 at checkout)
• BIOptimizers bioptimizers.com/spiritgym (save an extra 15% on your purchase by using the code PAUL15 at checkout)
We may earn commissions from qualifying purchases using affiliate links.
Music Credit: Meet Your Heroes (444Hz), Composed, mixed, mastered and produced by Michael RB Schwartz of Brave Bear Music
