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Mick West | TFTRH #35 Mike Santangelo: 9/11 Truth vs. B.S. @MickWest | Uploaded January 2020 | Updated October 2024, 15 hours ago.
Mike is a member of the 9/11 Truth community. He thinks there might have been explosives used on 9/11 to cause the collapse of the World Trade Center buildings. He does NOT think that a cruise missile hit the Pentagon, and considers that, like some other common 9/11 beliefs, to be "B.S."

We talk about how you decide what is B.S. and what is not. We also discuss the current state and possible future of the 9/11 Truth movement. We delve into the weeds of Mike's beliefs about the physics of the collapses, and I give him my take on those weeds.

Note: We were having connection issues so switched from Skype to Phone after a few minutes, so much of this video is a still image.

9/11 TAP (Truth Action Project) - 911tap.org
Dr T-Ruth article on Disinformation and infighting. -911tap.org/dr-t-ruth/1057-dr-t-ruth/762-mis-information-and-dis-information
Purdue News: 1 Gallon of Gas = 83 sticks of Dynamite - https://www.purdue.edu/uns/html3month/1999/990604.Kingman.gasoline.html
FBI's overview of their 9/11 Investigation - fbi.gov/history/famous-cases/911-investigation

Podcast Web Page: tftrh.com/2020/01/18/episode-35-mike-santangelo-9-11-truth-vs-b-s
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TFTRH #35 Mike Santangelo: 9/11 Truth vs. B.S.

$Nimitz FLIR1 Tic-Tac UFO Video - No Sudden Moves! Its claimed that the Nimitz FLIR video from 2004 shows an unusual flying craft performing a series of high-g maneuvers, culminating with it shooting off at an inhuman rate at the end of the video. But I think it actually shows an ordinary-seeming craft moving with a constant velocity, making no sudden moves. To help demonstrate this I made a version of the video overlaid with a timecode and larger versions of relevant information in the display. I corrected the zoom indicator changes (between 1 times and 2 times) so they happen on the actual frame of the zoom change and not a few frames later as they do in the original. I added indicators when theres some kind of lens change or a gimbal adjustment, or other events that cause apparent motion. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPN49cY_sF0 The number at the top shows the heading of the camera in degrees relative to the front of the plane. This goes from 4 degrees right, to 8 degrees left. The horizon indicator in the middle shows that the plane is not turning, so this means the object has an apparent angular movement to the left. The indicator gets a bit squirrely around zero, probably due to gimbal lock issues, but if we take the 7 degree of motion from the start of 1 degree left at 44:15 to the start of 8 degrees left at 1:12:27, thats 7 degrees in 29 seconds, 12 frames, or about 4.2 seconds per degree of leftward motion. So weve got this object moving left, the camera is tracking it, so it stays in the middle of the screen. You cant see any background in the video, so theres no visual frame of reference for the motion. But it might look something like this if there were some clouds just behind it. To accurately get the speed here, I set the field of view in the 2x NARROW mode to 0.35 degrees (as found by the SCU report), so it takes 4.2*0.35 or about 1.5 seconds to traverse the frame. What would happen if the camera stopped tracking the object? The object would then just keep moving left at the same angular rate, taking about three quarters of a second to leave the Narrow 2x view. And thats exactly what we see. So why would it stop tracking? Well, the camera is tracking the object visually. We know this because every time theres a physical lens change, or a camera change, or a sudden rotation of the camera, we can SEE the lock being briefly lost, you see the bars expand as it tries to reacquire the target, and then contract around it when its locked up. But while its locking back on, or if never locks back on, then the object will just continue its motion to the left, looking like its suddenly changed speed, when its actually just the camera. So heres what happens in this video. At 0:40:29, theres a lens change from TV mode to IR mode. Lock is very briefly lost, the object goes to the left for a few fractions of a second, and then the camera catches up, and the tracking continues. At 0:43:13 theres an interruption of the video. Lock is again briefly lost, a slight leftwards movement, and then we are locked on again. At 0:49:06 The camera does a gimbal rotation adjustment to prepare for transiting zero degrees. You can see the entire scene rotates. Lock is lost and the object ends up a bit to the left, it drifts a bit more left, and then we lock back on At 0:55:20 A similar thing, with a very tight circular movement, and small movement to the left. At 1:11:28 Theres a lens change from NARROW to MEDIUM fields of view. Because this is the same camera theres less blanking, so as we transfer between lenses, we see the object seem to shoot off to the bottom left. It then reappears in the center. As weve lost tracking it moves slightly to the left, the reticle expands, we lock back on and back to tracking. At 1:14:00 A similar thing going back to NARROW, but with the change more obscured. The object vanishes and reappears slightly to left of center, its just outside of the target reticle, and weve lost lock. The reticle expands, but the object has already started to move left. The reticle expands again, but now the object is outside and moving left, so it never gets the lock back and the object drifts leftward. Were only at 1x zoom here, so its not moving left that fast. But then At 1:14:14 the pilot switches from 1x to 2x zoom, causing a sudden jump in the apparent position of the object. It then continues to drift off to the left twice as fast as before, at exactly the speed we calculated earlier. So all the apparent movements we see are consistent with the object simply moving in a straight line to the left. So this perfectly consistent with something like a distant aircraft just flying along quite normally making no sudden movements.$

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