Tess Gunty, Winner of the National Book Award @otherppl

Uploaded August 2026 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago

Tess Gunty on mysticism, ambition, the Midwest, and her novel THE RABBIT HUTCH.

From Episode 847, my conversation with National Book Award-winning novelist Tess Gunty, author of THE RABBIT HUTCH (Vintage).

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Tess Gunty, Winner of the National Book Award

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Tess Gunty, Winner of the National Book Award