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Rising Above: A Conversation with Taya Kyle
In this powerful episode, Marcus and Melanie visit with Taya Kyle, an author, political commentator, and military veteran’s family activist. Taya is widely known as the widow of US Navy SEAL Chris Kyle, whose story was immortalized in the book and movie “American Sniper.”
Taya was unexpectedly thrust into the national spotlight when her husband, Chris Kyle, one of America’s greatest heroes, was tragically murdered. Chris Kyle’s legacy as a Navy SEAL and his extraordinary combat tours were shared with the world through his autobiography and its film adaptation. Despite the immense grief and pain, Taya has continued to honor Chris’ life and service by dedicating herself to helping others navigate through their own tragedies.
As a New York Times best-selling author, Taya’s first book, “American Wife,” offers a deeply personal look at her life with Chris. In 2019, she released her second book, “American Spirit,” a collection of inspirational short stories about remarkable individuals she has encountered on her journey. Taya’s commitment to uplifting others extends through her foundation, Taya and Chris Kyle Family – Service Marriage Strong, where she provides support and hope to those facing difficult times.
Join us for an episode filled with hope, strength, and the enduring American spirit.
In This Episode You Will Hear:
• [McKnenna] I kind of always looked at everything as negative, and tried to find the negative in things. {21:06)
• Go find people that who are so broken themselves. To come out of that is God’s grace. It is 100% God’s grace. (23:57)
• Colton said, I’ve never seen an example of spiritual warfare, as much as I saw it with McKenna. (24:37)
• [Melanie] We all make mistakes. We’re not born parents (30:51)
• The parents are losing their time with the kids, and they’re expecting the schools to do it. I advise every single person to homeschool. Be done. (37:18)
• [McKenna] If there is an adult role model who is teaching them and showing them how to act, it is very helpful. (45:52)
• There are some [teachers] that enjoy teaching or children, but a lot of them just enjoy power and control. (52:40)
• Taya and Chris Kyle Foundation. And Service Marriage Strong. In marriage, 80% of murder-suicide is relationship related, not because of the people in it doing things wrong, but they don’t have the tools they need for a service marriage. (55:18)
• We’re coming in to coach them on their strengths and how to use their strengths in marriage. (56:13)
• If knowing that you’re not alone in your thoughts that you’ve kept it all to yourself. (57:17)
• The happiness of your marriage impacts your children. (57:59)
• [Marcus’ advice to Taya] You don’t have to be planning so much. Just show up. Do what you do, and God’s got it covered. (67:53)
• Do something that you feel called to do. (69:56)
• You have a responsibility to add goodness to the world. (97:21)
Rising Above: A Conversation with Taya Kyle
In this powerful episode, Marcus and Melanie visit with Taya Kyle, an author, political commentator, and military veteran’s family activist. Taya is widely known as the widow of US Navy SEAL Chris Kyle, whose story was immortalized in the book and movie “American Sniper.”
Taya was unexpectedly thrust into the national spotlight when her husband, Chris Kyle, one of America’s greatest heroes, was tragically murdered. Chris Kyle’s legacy as a Navy SEAL and his extraordinary combat tours were shared with the world through his autobiography and its film adaptation. Despite the immense grief and pain, Taya has continued to honor Chris’ life and service by dedicating herself to helping others navigate through their own tragedies.
As a New York Times best-selling author, Taya’s first book, “American Wife,” offers a deeply personal look at her life with Chris. In 2019, she released her second book, “American Spirit,” a collection of inspirational short stories about remarkable individuals she has encountered on her journey. Taya’s commitment to uplifting others extends through her foundation, Taya and Chris Kyle Family – Service Marriage Strong, where she provides support and hope to those facing difficult times.
Join us for an episode filled with hope, strength, and the enduring American spirit.
In This Episode You Will Hear:
• [McKnenna] I kind of always looked at everything as negative, and tried to find the negative in things. {21:06)
• Go find people that who are so broken themselves. To come out of that is God’s grace. It is 100% God’s grace. (23:57)
• Colton said, I’ve never seen an example of spiritual warfare, as much as I saw it with McKenna. (24:37)
• [Melanie] We all make mistakes. We’re not born parents (30:51)
• The parents are losing their time with the kids, and they’re expecting the schools to do it. I advise every single person to homeschool. Be done. (37:18)
• [McKenna] If there is an adult role model who is teaching them and showing them how to act, it is very helpful. (45:52)
• There are some [teachers] that enjoy teaching or children, but a lot of them just enjoy power and control. (52:40)
• Taya and Chris Kyle Foundation. And Service Marriage Strong. In marriage, 80% of murder-suicide is relationship related, not because of the people in it doing things wrong, but they don’t have the tools they need for a service marriage. (55:18)
• We’re coming in to coach them on their strengths and how to use their strengths in marriage. (56:13)
• If knowing that you’re not alone in your thoughts that you’ve kept it all to yourself. (57:17)
• The happiness of your marriage impacts your children. (57:59)
• [Marcus’ advice to Taya] You don’t have to be planning so much. Just show up. Do what you do, and God’s got it covered. (67:53)
• Do something that you feel called to do. (69:56)
• You have a responsibility to add goodness to the world. (97:21)
![BRANDON KAPELOW:Visual Storyteller on Mental Health, Crafting Compassion Through Physcedelic Therapy
Exploring Mental Health Through Visual Storytelling with Brandon Kapelow
This week on the Team Never Quit Podcast, Marcus and Melanie speak with Brandon Kapelow, a versatile visual artist hailing from the picturesque landscapes of Wyoming. With a diverse portfolio encompassing directing, photography, and cinematography, Brandon’s creative journey is as dynamic as the landscapes he captures.
But there’s more to Brandon’s story than meets the eye. At an early age, he endured the tragic loss of his dad to suicide, an experience that profoundly shaped his artistic endeavors and personal mission. Now, as a survivor and advocate, Brandon channels his passion into exploring themes of mental health through his work.
Brandon delves into the complexities of mental health with a keen eye and compassionate heart. Beyond academia, he extends his support to those affected by suicide loss as a peer-support group facilitator.
Join us as we traverse the intersections of art, resilience, and healing with Brandon Kapelow. From the rugged landscapes of Wyoming to the bustling streets of LA and Vancouver, Brandon’s nomadic lifestyle mirrors his insatiable curiosity for the human experience.
In this episode you will hear:
• I struggle with a succinct way to categorize what I do, because I really try my best to be a chameleon at times. (4:45)
• So you’re having these dramatic swings between one extreme and the other. On one end of that spectrum you have like the depressive, down quality, and the opposite side you have mania – hyperactivity, lots of energy, feeling like you’re king of the world. (7:44)
• I was a bit of a nerd in high school. I was in the speech and debate team. (9:18)
• Words do matter. (19:32)
• Even the word “triggering” is something that we try to avoid using now, because that evokes imagery of a specific thing that might be upsetting to certain people. (23:44)
• If each of us can encourage one other person to model slightly better behavior, then we’re gonna live in a better world. (25:07)
• People really don’t take unsolicited advice. (28:19)
• If you’re concerned about somebody, really just be direct with them and let them know that you are concerned, particularly with suicide. (31:31)
• The one thing that you can access anywhere in this country is the National Suicide Prevention Hotline. Call 9-8-8. (34:50)
• If you know a person who has access to something that they can use to kill themselves, work with them to try to remove access to whatever that might be. (37:10)
• [Marcus] When you into a situation, don’t let the situation affect you. You go in there to affect the situation. (42:02)
• We have to separate people’s external circumstances from their feeling of worth, purpose, and meaning in life. (46:58)
• I work with a lot of veterans, because they are a particularly at risk group for suicide and other mental health challenges. (48:33)
• Vulnerability is a source of strength. (59:44)
• [Melanie] When I was introduced to psychedelic medicine, and I saw how it was helping so many people, I couldn’t keep my blinders on. I started to do research and seeing how it was changing lives. (66:56)
• It’s one thing to have a self-guided experience. It’s another thing to have a mental health professional there with you while you’re undergoing this experience to really maximize the benefits. (72:08)
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We’re bringing you real-life stories of men and women who took life’s toughest challenges and met them head-on, radically changing their own lives and inspiring others to do the same. BRANDON KAPELOW:Visual Storyteller on Mental Health, Crafting Compassion Through Physcedelic Therapy](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/eXXHna7YlLY/mqdefault.jpg)
![EARL GRANVILLE: Journey of Loss, Survival, & Triumph - Losing A Limb To A Roadside Bomb
Redefining Mindsets and Building Community
In this week’s Team Never Quit Podcast, Marcus and Melanie’s guest is Earl Granville, a true testament to resilience, leadership, and the power of positive mindset. Earl shares his transformative journey from trauma to triumph, offering listeners insights into how to redefine their own mindset to create the space for positive shifts in life. He discusses stepping out of your comfort zone, becoming the leader you are meant to be, and the critical importance of building and maintaining a healthy community.
Earl’s story is nothing short of inspiring. Just two weeks into basic training at Fort Benning, GA, with his twin brother Joe, the tragic events of 9/11 unfolded, marking a pivotal moment in his life. Earl went on to serve nine years as an Infantryman in the Army National Guard, with multiple deployments to Bosnia, Iraq, and Afghanistan. During his final tour, Earl lost his left leg below the knee due to a roadside bomb, and tragically, he also lost two of his teammates, Major Scott Hagerty and Specialist Derek Holland, on that same day.
After the loss of his limb in combat and the passing of his brother Joe, who took his own life while serving on active duty, Earl discovered the power of a positive mindset and became a passionate advocate for mental health, physical fitness, and resilience. He continues his journey as a public speaker, traveling the country to share his story and motivate others to overcome challenges. In addition to speaking, Earl works with several non-profits like Operation Enduring Warrior, the Oscar Mike Foundation, and WarriorStrong, all of which help wounded veterans and law enforcement officers stay physically active post-injury.
Earl’s efforts have earned him numerous awards, including the 2018 Attorney General Heart So Big Award, the Junior Chamber International (JCI USA) TOYA Award, and the 2018 Daughters of the American Revolution Veterans Volunteer Award. He retired as a Staff Sergeant with multiple honors, including the Bronze Star, Purple Heart, and Combat Infantryman Badge.
Tune in to hear how Earl Granville’s story of overcoming adversity and his commitment to positive change can inspire you to face your own challenges with resilience, build stronger connections, and lead a life of purpose.
In This Episode You Will Hear:
• One good thing about these conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan is that we’ve had a lot of people in their 20s and 30s that were losing limbs that causes technology to be boosted. (3:48)
• The amputee’s best friend is your Allen wrench. (7:03)
• [At] NYPD, the culture today is like the modern day Vietnam veteran. (21:09)
• Joining the military made it about me. What can I get out of this? Sure – free college. But going to Iraq, I became an NCO, put in charge of people. I realized this isn’t about me, it’s about us. (37:27)
• There’s pride that people take when tragedy happens. It’s what the community does to honor those who aren’t here anymore. (42:52)
• I remember going over the headset talking to my guys like “Damn, it’s beautiful here, look at this green grass. Who’s water the grass in Afghanistan?” The next thing I remember, I saw nothing but black. (65:52)
• I was ejected out of my Humvee and I wasn’t wearing mu gunner’s harness which probably saved my life, because the roof peeled back like a tuna can. (70:04)
• Everything happened right in my situation. I really do feel that way. What do I have to complain about? (70:20)
• Afghans don’t have the will to fight. (76:26)
• Have you ever met an Afghan or an Iraqi with an Iraqi flag or an Afghan flag tattoo? (76:43)
• I went under for surgery on my hip, and I woke up in Germany, with a nurse pulling a breathing tube out of my throat. (79:02)
• Joe [my twin brother] seeing me in this state, says to me: “I shoulda just gone with you. (84:23)
• It’s not forever. I’m gonna get my independence back. I’m gonna be walking again, cause it’s not forever. (96:08)
• While on active duty, my twin brother, Staff Sergeant Joe Granville, takes his own life. (97:57)
• How do I get this second chance at life, and Joe [my twin brother] take his away? (98:08)
• Not every mental health situation with an armed forces service member is PTSD related. (109:00)
• The big thing people need is purpose – military or not. (110:29)
• I found this passion of physical fitness once again thanks to being introduced to Crossfit. (120:41)
• People you surround yourself with, I truly believe, makes who you are. (125:15)
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![CHRIS CARACCI: Original SEAL Team 6, Undercover Narcotics, SWAT Operations, Heroes At War (pt2)
Chris Caracci – Part 2 – From SEAL Team Six to Law Enforcement: A Journey of Tactical Mastery
This week, the Team Never Quit Podcast brings you Part 2 of Marcus and Melanie’s discussion with Chris Caracci, a distinguished figure with over two decades of combined military and law enforcement experience. Chris’s journey from serving with SEAL Team One and Team Six to becoming a leading authority in practical and tactical techniques is both inspiring and enlightening.
Chris’s illustrious career began with a six-year commitment in the U.S. Navy, where he served with unparalleled distinction in SEAL Team One and Team Six, specializing in anti-terrorism operations. Transitioning from his military service, Chris spent nine years as a sworn tactical officer, operating in diverse environments across New York, New Jersey, and South Florida. His expertise in SWAT operations and narcotics enforcement earned him recognition as a top-tier operative and trainer, sought after by both local and federal agencies.
Chris shares compelling accounts of Medal of Honor recipients going back to the Vietnam War.
Today, Chris’s dedication to personal protection and private training keeps him at the forefront of the field, where maintaining peak physical and mental conditioning is paramount. With a profound understanding of real-life conflicts, Chris brings a unique perspective to his classes, teaching from both the heart and the mind.
Gain insights into Chris’s firsthand experiences with real-life conflicts and the strategies needed to navigate them successfully.
Don’t miss this week’s Part 2 episode as we delve into more details of Chris Caracci’s military and law enforcement service – a true master of tactical expertise.
In this episode you will hear:
• [Marcus] I remember being in hell week, around the world, rowing that boat. I looked over at the guys in my boat and I said, “Hey guys, we’re in the books, we’re in the movies right now.
• The things that I read about in the books is what we were doing. {16:36)
• If I can’t see my target I’m not shooting. I don’t shoot to make noise. (34:20)
• [Marcus] Imagine if a football play lasted until you actually scored a touchdown – without stopping. It’s kinda what it’s like for us. (47:48)
• Sometimes, you have to face the truth that what we do and how we do it. We CAN do it and not everybody can do it. (58:30)
• SEAL Teams have never left anyone behind – ever. (74:43)
• We had three Medal of Honors that went out in Vietnam. (84:54)
• For a SEAL to be awarded and it’s not about medal, we’re talking about a validation for something they did. It’s very hard for frogmen to get that because every day are those kinds of missions. (84:00)
• Just training. SEAL Teams kill more people in peacetime than anyone has a clue about. (89:59)
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![MICHAEL HALTERMAN: 1st Marine Raider Battalion & VP of The Honor Foundation
Welcome friends, to this week’s Team Never Quit Podcast with your host, retired Navy SEAL Marcus Luttrell. In today’s episode, Marcus has the honor of hosting Michael G Halterman, the Vice President of Operations at The Honor Foundation. With a career spanning over two decades, Michael has a wealth of experience, particularly in operations, leadership, and the military and veterans education sectors. His mission consists of a commitment to help fellow veterans navigate the transition process, ensuring they find their unique path and thrive in the process.
Michael served as a Marine Infantryman for 10 years and is a Plank Owner of 1st Marine Raider Battalion. His profound respect for Special Operators is deeply rooted in his experiences and dedication to the military community.
His story is a testament to the power of a clear personal why and the impact of laser focus in achieving remarkable goals. Join us as we explore the lessons learned and the wisdom gained through Michael’s diverse and impactful career.
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In this episode you will hear:
• I grew up waving the red, white, and blue. (4:58)
• Growing up in the 80s, guns weren’t like pink and purple. (6:59)
• I was a kid running around with tri-color camo on and realistic-looking guns. (7:05)
• [In the military] I got to learn about life. People from other cultures, because you really don’t know nothing growing up in a small town. (8:28)
• The first thing I remember pulling into Southern Nasiriya, [Iraq]. It was the first time I had seen American vehicles with bullet holes in them – on fire – American military uniforms with blood on them – Helmets tipped over. (12:48)
• How do you go from spending as much time in the military as [the time] I’ve had on the planet? (45:35)
• [The Honor Foundation] is fully designed for you to explore all opportunities in a safe space. (48:22)
• [The Honor Foundation] is an executive-style education, and it’s three months long. (50:15)
• The big differentiator of who we are at the Honor Foundation is that the entire first phase has nothing to do with LinkedIn, resume’s or any of that. We make these dudes figure out who they are again. (51:44)
• Who are you when no one cares about rank anymore; no one cares about sniper school; no one cares that you can free fall. They wanna know who you are, and before you can tell them that, you have to know who you are. And you have to articulate that well. (52:04)
• The reality is… you’re gonna have to struggle with who you are, who your community is, how to make sense of the world, and the purpose and meaning of life for a while. (61:31)
• We advocate the best time to get a job is when you have a job. (62:40)
• At no time do we tell them what to do. We empower them to go do what they want to do. (70:29)
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We’re bringing you real-life stories of men and women who took life’s toughest challenges and met them head-on, radically changing their own lives and inspiring others to do the same. MICHAEL HALTERMAN: 1st Marine Raider Battalion & VP of The Honor Foundation](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/gjOcT4WrVKU/mqdefault.jpg)
![CLINT BRUCE: US Navy SEAL & NFL Athlete on Veteran Advocacy, Leadership Strategies
Unleashing the Warrior Spirit with Clint Bruce
In this week’s episode, Marcus and Melanie are thrilled to host Clint Bruce, a former Navy SEAL and co-founder of Carry the Load. Clint brings a wealth of experience and insight into leadership, resilience, and the warrior spirit. Join us as we delve into his journey from the elite ranks of the U.S. Navy SEALs to his impactful work in professional football as well as the veteran community.
Clint discussing the challenges, triumphs, and the mindset that sets these warriors apart.As a successful entrepreneur and leader, Clint reflects on the leadership principles he learned in the SEALs and how they apply to various aspects of life. Discover his insights on leading with purpose, building high-performance teams, and navigating adversity.
Clint co-founded Carry the Load, a non-profit dedicated to honoring and remembering the sacrifices made by military, law enforcement, and first responders.
He explores how the warrior spirit isn’t exclusive to the battlefield but can be applied in everyday challenges. Gain practical tips on fostering resilience, discipline, and mental toughness to overcome obstacles and achieve personal and professional success. Hear how he manages the demands of a high-stakes career while staying connected with his family.
Join us for this powerful and inspiring conversation with Clint Bruce as we unlock the secrets of the warrior spirit and learn how to apply these principles to lead more fulfilling lives.
Whether you’re a leader, aspiring warrior, or someone navigating life’s challenges, this episode offers valuable lessons for everyone. Tune in and unleash your own inner warrior!
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In this episode you will hear:
• My gift is not being gifted. I’ve always had to figure it out. (13:15)
• Being not good made me good. (15:12)
• Leaders talk about what they don’t want to talk about, they say what they don’t want to say, they listen to what they don’t want to listen to, and they plan for what they don’t want to happen. And the willingness to do that is what makes them a leader. (16:44)
• I’ve always wanted to a part of something bigger than me that scared me a little bit that I was gonna have to work hard to keep up with. (22:08)
• [I went to the Naval Academy because] I wanted to take care of my family, and I wanted to see how good I was. (28:58)
• I told my service academy coaches all the time: You got guys ready for war as much as you did football. You have no idea how many lives you saved on the battlefield, because of what you taught us on the ball field. (30:05)
• I gotta go where it’s harder, because you’re gonna learn about yourself when you go where you don’t know. (33:23)
• Ray [Lewis] stood up, and he grabbed me by both shoulders, and he said “Go be great! Go be great!” (33:38)
• Think about what happens if you catch what you’re chasing. (35:04)
• I love doing something where every day you don’t know how it’s gonna end, and if you don’t pick the right people along the way, you’re not gonna make it. (44:47)
• One of the things I love about our community is that the mission’s bigger than any of us. (45:49)
• When you lose people that you love sooner than you should, the worst thing you could ever do is waste the time you have that they don’t. (52:56)
• My favorite weapon is a map. (53:32)
• I define my life as having live on 4 maps: the ball field, the battle field, the boardroom, and the breakfast table. (54:23)
• The business plan is real simple:
Psalm 1:27
1 Peter 5:6-7
Galatians 6:9
Proverbs 22:29
Proverbs 27:2 (60:56)
• C4 stands for Career, Compete, Contribute, have a Catalyst. (66:54)
• Who are you chasing? Who are you keeping pace with? Who are you pulling behind you? (87:40)
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We’re bringing you real-life stories of men and women who took life’s toughest challenges and met them head-on, radically changing their own lives and inspiring others to do the same. CLINT BRUCE: US Navy SEAL & NFL Athlete on Veteran Advocacy, Leadership Strategies](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/gniK0GtVJCM/mqdefault.jpg)
![AARON KENDLE:Navy SEAL To CEO, Overcoming A Freak Accident Amputation, Norseman Xtreme Triathlon
In this riveting episode, we dive deep into the extraordinary journey of Aaron Kendle, who dedicated 16 years to the Navy SEALs, completing six deployments. Kendle began his career as a medic, advanced to become a sniper, and eventually served as a sky-diving instructor for the West Coast SEALs in San Diego. Transitioning from military to civilian life, Kendle embraced a new mission as the CEO of the SEAL Future Fund (SFF), an organization devoted to helping fellow SEALs transition into civilian life and careers, with the creation of tailored resumes, professional coaching, and networking opportunities.
Despite a devastating accident that required hand amputation and the discovery and treatment of his life-threatening aortic aneurysm, Aaron proves firsthand that perspective, attitude and determination go a long way in life. Tune in to hear Aaron Kendle’s full story and gain valuable insights on leadership, resilience, and the power of community in supporting life transitions.
In this episode you will hear:
• Q: So what was it that made you want to become a Navy SEAL?
A: I started thinking about it before I graduated. 9-11 is what shifted my path. (7:37)
• I still going to the VFW. I still love talking to those older guys. It’s a different mindset. (11:14)
• I heard my name going to Gold Team. As the classes get smaller and smaller, the guys get tighter. (44:33)
• We were living in Morgan’s house. Every Wednesday, if we were all together, we would go to Outback Steakhouse and get Chocolate Thunder. (50:48)
• Aaron speaks about “Extortion,” when 30 servicemen were killed when a Chinook helicopter was shot down in Afghanistan. (57:25)
• 2 days later when everything opened up, I remember calling my dad on a sat phone, saying “Hey, it’s me. I’m alive. I’d love to stay and chat, but there’s a bunch of stuff going on.” (61:59)
• The older guys that did 20-30 years. Those are the guys trying to figure out what’s the next step? (81:13)
• Aaron tells the most ridiculous and compelling story of an accident that resulted in having his hand amputated, and the subsequent hilarious events that followed. (82:12)
• “You have an Aortic aneurism. Your Aorta is way oversized.” (98:09)
During Covid I’m out there skateboarding. Made this turn, hit a wet patch, and landed directly on my nub. (103:35)
• I had a seizure. Out of nowhere. (104:18)
If I don’t have a goal for something, then I’m not doing anything. (109:16)
• Starting running is the worst feeling of all time. To stand there and then begin to run is terrible. (110:13)
• I think I owe it to people. 1 – I’m not dead. If I can go out there and suffer a little bit to help motivate people, and make ‘em better than I am, that’s our goal. (123:23)
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About TNQ Podcast:
Each week join Retired Navy SEAL and Lone Survivor Marcus Luttrell, Morgan Luttrell, and Producer Andrew Brockenbush as they’ll take you into the “briefing room” to chat with incredible guests who share their greatest never quit stories. This humorous, heartfelt, and entertaining podcast is changing lives and has become a beacon of hope and resilience to those who are facing the impossible. One of the best ways we can support our community is to share their stories so that we might inspire others to Never Quit.
We’re bringing you real-life stories of men and women who took life’s toughest challenges and met them head-on, radically changing their own lives and inspiring others to do the same. AARON KENDLE:Navy SEAL To CEO, Overcoming A Freak Accident Amputation, Norseman Xtreme Triathlon](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/gsy7OFGAlB0/mqdefault.jpg)

![DR CHRIS FRUEH & ROB SWEETMAN: Operator Syndrome:The Costs of War & The Fight For Better Sleep
In this week’s compelling episode of the Team Never Quit Podcast, we welcome Dr. Chris Frueh, a distinguished clinical psychologist, professor of psychology, and published author with over 30 years of experience working with military veterans and active-duty personnel. Dr. Frueh shares his extensive expertise drawn from decades of clinical trials, epidemiology, historical insights, and neuroscience research. Listen as he unpacks his groundbreaking work on “Operator Syndrome” and reveals how this paradigm-shifting concept is transforming our understanding and treatment of the complex health, psychological, and interpersonal challenges faced by those in military special operations.
Extensive Expertise: Over thirty years of professional experience with military veterans and active-duty personnel.
Academic & Clinical Leadership: Clinical Psychologist, Professor of Psychology, and co-author of more than 300 scientific publications, including a graduate textbook on adult psychopathology.
Innovative Research: Pioneering work on “Operator Syndrome”—a framework addressing the interrelated challenges emerging from a career in military special operations
Influential Voice: Dr. Frueh has testified before the US Congress and served as a contractor for organizations such as the Department of Defense, Veterans Affairs, US State Department, and the National Board of Medical Examiners.
Media Presence: His insights have been featured in top publications and cited by outlets like the Wall Street Journal, The Economist, Washington Post, Scientific American, and NBC News.
Along with Dr Freud, Rob Sweetman brings much to the discussion. A former Navy SEAL with eight years of service, Rob faced numerous hidden injuries, including PTSD, Traumatic Brain Injury (TBI), Obstructive Sleep Apnea, and Insomnia. The loss of a teammate to suicide became a turning point in his life, driving him to dedicate himself to the study of sleep science, determined to make a difference in the lives of others.
Whether you’re a veteran, a mental health professional, or simply interested in groundbreaking research that bridges military experience and psychology, this episode is a must-listen. Tune in to gain valuable insights and join the conversation on advancing care for our military community.
In this episode you will hear:
• Through the military, the VA system, we’ve completely screwed the pooch with PTSD. We’ve put everything on PTSD. 6:47
• Because we’ve put that reliance on PTSD, we’ve not attended to sleep, and sleep apnea. 7:22
• We’ve failed a generation of soldiers. 8:01
• Soldiers injure their brains in 2 ways. Impact forces that cause a concussion, but also the blasts have a shearing effect. That scars the glial cells in the nervous system. 8:21
• We need to overhaul our approach to how we take care of soldiers, and by the way, this also affects first responders. 9:49
• Soldiers fight their wars overseas (so far). Responders are in the streets of their home town. 10:08
• We, and I say we as the medical establishment, of which I’ve been a part of for 30 years, we’ve fucked it all up. We’re not paying attention. 10:36
• We’ve put all the focus on the psychological without appreciating the physiological. 15:49
• There’s a lot of powers in the pharmaceutical companies, insurance companies, and the hospitals that control the actions of doctors. 23:01
• You can’t say that all sleep causes all mental [issues] and you can’t say that all mental health [issues] causes sleep health, but they’re definitely related. 24:55
• We still don’t have suicide figured out. 26:26
• You gotta have discipline. 32:22
• A hypnogram is how we measure sleep with brain wave activity. 41:57
• We have the best fighting force in the world. But we’ve been playing in the sand box of Iraq and Afghanistan. What’s gonna happen when we have our first word threat. When that pops up, are we gonna be ready? 51:45
• Mr. Hegseth’s number one mission is to improve the lethality of the war fighter. 56:26
• Last year, the VA spent 600 million dollars on suicide prevention efforts, that did not move the needle one little bit. 59:52
• The concept of Operator Syndrome is not a diagnosis, it’s a framework for understanding how they’re all interrelated. 63:25
• Your sleep affects your metabolism; it affects your hormone production. Testosterone is produced during sleep. Your brain health is affecting your sleep and your sleep is affecting your brain health. 63:38
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![KRISTI SCHILLER: Building Safer Communities w/ K9 Heroes, K9s4cops - Mission To Protect
From Heart of Texas to Heart of a Mission – Resilience, Family, and a Legacy of Giving
Welcome to this week’s Team Never Quit episode! Today, we Marcus and Melanie have an incredibly inspiring guest, Kristi Schiller, joining them. Kristi is a Texas philanthropist, entrepreneur, animal lover, and stroke survivor with an unwavering dedication to making the world a safer, kinder, and more compassionate place.
Kristi shares her story of resilience, community impact, and love. Kristi’s career started in broadcast journalism, with highlights that include being dubbed the “Queen of the Internet” by Forbes in 1997. But it’s her charitable work, particularly as the founder of K9s4COPs that has been a true calling. This nonprofit organization provides highly trained K9 officers to law enforcement agencies across the U.S., supporting public safety in a unique way. Kristi’s love for animals is evident in her life at Schiller Ranch, where her passion for horses also led her to create the Diamonds & Dirt Barrel Horse Classic, an event that celebrates barrel racing and benefits her nonprofit.
In this episode, Kristi opens up about a life-altering experience in 2021. During a routine shopping trip, she suddenly became disoriented, forgetting her name and address—a frightening moment that eventually led to the diagnosis of multiple strokes. She discusses the unexpected struggles and humbling moments of recovery, from speech therapy to relearning simple phrases. Yet, through her journey, Kristi has remained resilient, now using her platform to advocate for stroke awareness, sharing critical insights on recognizing symptoms and prioritizing health.
Kristi’s message is clear: stay vigilant, cherish your support system, and never underestimate the power of resilience.
Don’t miss this moving, inspiring conversation with Kristi Schiller!
In This Episode You Will Hear:
• I saw all these people in front of the banks of TVs and they were crying. I asked “What’s going on?” They said a gunman came into a school in Connecticut and shot children, Kindergarteners. (13:12)
• [In an airport] So how he approaches that person [who looks like a potential threat] – that sets off the tone for the rest of [the encounter]. (15:01)
• [Marcus] The coolest line up would be when those guys [retiring military] are getting out and you have a school where every bus driver is SF (Special Forces). (17:16)
• For the most part, they [retired military] want to keep serving. They want to do something. (17:48)
• I was like “Even if we just satisfied [the needs] in our area.” Within 3 or 4 months we were in Iowa, and now we’re in 40 states, Europe and Africa. We have removed 8 Billion dollars in contraband, made over 200,000 felony arrests, and recovered 150,000 weapons. (26:28)
• Everybody thinks that child abuse/molestation, they’re gonna grab your kid and take ‘em. That would be a worst case scenario. But a lot of times, you’re out and about, shopping, you’re maybe at a fair or event. It’s somebody just coming by touching, just to cop a feel. (42:38)
• [The Amish] have no vaccines, they’re not even wearing shoes. They have no TV and no media, and they’re thriving. (48:13)
• I was really sick during COVID. I didn’t realize I’d had 6 strokes. (53:53)
• A dog, when it comes in – people will think twice about messing with our nurses, or even doctors. (58:57)
• Our government didn’t get our hostages out of Iran. It was Oscar Wyatt and John Connally. How did we repay ‘em? We sent ‘em to prison. (63:28)
• [Marcus] I tell you what, I wish I was half the man my dogs thought I was. (76:28)
• [Marcus – My dog] taught me more about myself than I could’ve ever learned from a lot of grown men. (76:38)
• Have you been to the capitol? They have a separate line. You have a gun on you? Oh, get to go to the front of the line. (83:50)
• When you turn on the news and you see that your dog’s gone in. A guy drove to Galveston and drove into Galveston Bay. They threw the dog in and he got him out of Galveston Bay. (95:42)
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