Uploaded December 2025 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago

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Rachel and Van start the show by talking about podcasters like Joe Rogan and his possible intentions with those he interviews. Then, they discuss Governor Josh Shapiro’s opinions on Kamala Harris’s book and react to both the new four-part Netflix documentary on Diddy and the response to it from Diddy’s team. Rachel also gives an apology rating to BD Wong. Later, they are joined by Governor Wes Moore to talk about reparations, child poverty, and direct conversations with Trump.

00:00 - Welcome!
04:15 - Joe Rogan and intentions
09:57 - Governor Shapiro comments on Kamala Harris
17:43 - Netflix releases a four-part Diddy documentary
28:24- Pharrell addresses recent political comments
48:39 - BD Wong apologizes for racist joke
58:06- Governor Wes Moore joins us
2:00:57 - Thanks for watching!

Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay
Guest: Governor Wes Moore
Producers: Ashleigh Smith and Donnie Beacham
Video Supervision: Chris Thomas

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Sources:

BD Wong Apologizes for Racist Joke: ‘I’m Sorry if This Moment Tarnished Any Respect You May’ve Had For Me’
variety.com/2025/tv/news/bd-wong-apologizes-racist-joke-1236597837

Netflix hits back at Diddy's criticism of 'shameful' documentary
bbc.com/news/articles/cm28ejzlv9lo

Pharrell Addresses Recent Political Comments, Says He Will Always Fight to 'Level the Playing Field'
complex.com/music/a/backwoodsaltar/pharrell-addresses-political-comments

Shapiro: Harris told ‘blatant lies’ and ‘she’s trying to sell books and cover her a–‘
thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5632354-shapiro-harris-memoir-dispute

The Clip Shown to Gov. Moore
youtube.com/watch?v=dvklfk7UAm0&t=2363s