Uploaded June 2026 | Updated September 2026, 4 days ago
Has the Christian life become an endless list of things to do? Jon Moffitt sits down with David Zahl (Mockingbird) to name how believers drift from gospel freedom back into performance and self-improvement. Together they unpack law and gospel: Christ's finished work gives the rest and assurance weary pilgrims need—so we stop "lawing" the good news.
In this episode you'll hear:
- Why Christians slide from grace into self-fix projects
- Law that demands versus gospel that announces finished work
- How Satan twists God's good law into doubt and despair
- Performance-based faith and the exhaustion it produces
- Assurance grounded in Christ alone, not spiritual progress charts
- Freedom for sinners who keep needing mercy
- A refreshing conversation on grace with Mockingbird's David Zahl
Who it's for: Believers tired of DIY discipleship, listeners who love Mockingbird / Zahl, and Reformed Baptists guarding the gospel from being turned back into law.
Proposed / estimated chapters (auto-captions have no exact timestamps; adjust after publish if needed):
0:00 - When the Christian life becomes a to-do list
6:00 - Welcome David Zahl and Mockingbird
12:00 - Drifting from freedom into performance
18:00 - Law and gospel without confusing the two
24:00 - Twisting good law into accusation
30:00 - Finished work and real assurance
36:00 - Grace for ongoing sinners
42:00 - Rest, freedom, and closing encouragement
David's ministry: Mockingbird:
mbird.com
New free ebook: Enough in Christ:
theocast.org/enough-in-christ
Book: The Bible According to Jesus — How Jesus Teaches Us to Read the Scriptures:
theocast.org/products/the-bible-according-to-jesus
Free ebook: Rest:
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Has the Christian life become an endless list of things to do? Jon Moffitt sits down with David Zahl (Mockingbird) to name how believers drift from gospel freedom back into performance and self-improvement. Together they unpack law and gospel: Christ's finished work gives the rest and assurance weary pilgrims need—so we stop "lawing" the good news.
In this episode you'll hear:
- Why Christians slide from grace into self-fix projects
- Law that demands versus gospel that announces finished work
- How Satan twists God's good law into doubt and despair
- Performance-based faith and the exhaustion it produces
- Assurance grounded in Christ alone, not spiritual progress charts
- Freedom for sinners who keep needing mercy
- A refreshing conversation on grace with Mockingbird's David Zahl
Who it's for: Believers tired of DIY discipleship, listeners who love Mockingbird / Zahl, and Reformed Baptists guarding the gospel from being turned back into law.
Proposed / estimated chapters (auto-captions have no exact timestamps; adjust after publish if needed):
0:00 - When the Christian life becomes a to-do list
6:00 - Welcome David Zahl and Mockingbird
12:00 - Drifting from freedom into performance
18:00 - Law and gospel without confusing the two
24:00 - Twisting good law into accusation
30:00 - Finished work and real assurance
36:00 - Grace for ongoing sinners
42:00 - Rest, freedom, and closing encouragement
David's ministry: Mockingbird:
mbird.com
New free ebook: Enough in Christ:
theocast.org/enough-in-christ
Book: The Bible According to Jesus — How Jesus Teaches Us to Read the Scriptures:
theocast.org/products/the-bible-according-to-jesus
Free ebook: Rest:
theocast.org/collections/books/products/rest-a-consideration-of-faith-vs-faithfulness-ebook
Join the Theocast community:
theocastcommunity.org
Partner with Theocast:
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Our website:
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Jon Moffitt: twitter.com/jonmoffitt
Justin Perdue: twitter.com/justin_perdue
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Learn more: theocast.org
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