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When a rare genetic disorder hits home, it takes someone like this week’s Team Never Quit Podcast guest, Stephanie Herzog, to help find strategies to cure it. The Duchenne Muscular Dystrophy (DMD) diagnosis of her son, Max, was the driving force to connect her with Cure Rare Disease, who is currently developing life-saving therapeutics in collaboration with the world’s leading academics, clinicians, regulatory experts, translational experts, and manufacturing experts. Stephanie serves as a board member. The organization’s ground-breaking research is bringing to fruition the potential for permanent muscular regeneration, which was, at one time, science fiction.
In this episode you will hear:
When we learned about our son’s condition, we put together a golf tournament to raise funds because it was A: Our only option, and B: Our best option to cure our kid.
80% of boys with Duchenne Muscular Dystrophy have a gene deletion in the dystrophin gene. Max has a duplication of the dystrophin gene.
In what should be the best time ever with your child, that’s when we find out he has this horrible disease.
We had like a funeral in our house for like a month.
The weight of his future was heavy.
Our team, through Crispr technology, hope to edit Max’s gene mutation.
6 years ago, this was science fiction.
Boys usually get diagnosed between the ages of 4-6. They lose their ability to walk between the ages of 10 and 12. They usually lose their battle in their early 20s.
They’re literally knocking out the gene duplication along a string in his DNA on the cellular level.
Using the Crispr technology, the muscle cells are auto-correcting, producing dystrophin on their own.
You wonder: “How am I going to live with this? And you do.”
Faith is everything.
You need somebody to pray to.
When the going gets tough they have prayer.
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Each week join Retired Navy SEAL and Lone Survivor Marcus Luttrell, Morgan Luttrell, and Producer Andrew Brockenbush as they’ll take you into the “briefing room” to chat with incredible guests who share their greatest never quit stories. This humorous, heartfelt, and entertaining podcast is changing lives and has become a beacon of hope and resilience to those who are facing the impossible. One of the best ways we can support our community is to share their stories so that we might inspire others to Never Quit.
We’re bringing you real-life stories of men and women who took life’s toughest challenges and met them head-on, radically changing their own lives and inspiring others to do the same.
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About TNQ Podcast:
Each week join Retired Navy SEAL and Lone Survivor Marcus Luttrell, Morgan Luttrell, and Producer Andrew Brockenbush as they’ll take you into the “briefing room” to chat with incredible guests who share their greatest never quit stories. This humorous, heartfelt, and entertaining podcast is changing lives and has become a beacon of hope and resilience to those who are facing the impossible. One of the best ways we can support our community is to share their stories so that we might inspire others to Never Quit.
We’re bringing you real-life stories of men and women who took life’s toughest challenges and met them head-on, radically changing their own lives and inspiring others to do the same.
When a rare genetic disorder hits home, it takes someone like this week’s Team Never Quit Podcast guest, Stephanie Herzog, to help find strategies to cure it. The Duchenne Muscular Dystrophy (DMD) diagnosis of her son, Max, was the driving force to connect her with Cure Rare Disease, who is currently developing life-saving therapeutics in collaboration with the world’s leading academics, clinicians, regulatory experts, translational experts, and manufacturing experts. Stephanie serves as a board member. The organization’s ground-breaking research is bringing to fruition the potential for permanent muscular regeneration, which was, at one time, science fiction.
In this episode you will hear:
When we learned about our son’s condition, we put together a golf tournament to raise funds because it was A: Our only option, and B: Our best option to cure our kid.
80% of boys with Duchenne Muscular Dystrophy have a gene deletion in the dystrophin gene. Max has a duplication of the dystrophin gene.
In what should be the best time ever with your child, that’s when we find out he has this horrible disease.
We had like a funeral in our house for like a month.
The weight of his future was heavy.
Our team, through Crispr technology, hope to edit Max’s gene mutation.
6 years ago, this was science fiction.
Boys usually get diagnosed between the ages of 4-6. They lose their ability to walk between the ages of 10 and 12. They usually lose their battle in their early 20s.
They’re literally knocking out the gene duplication along a string in his DNA on the cellular level.
Using the Crispr technology, the muscle cells are auto-correcting, producing dystrophin on their own.
You wonder: “How am I going to live with this? And you do.”
Faith is everything.
You need somebody to pray to.
When the going gets tough they have prayer.
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Each week join Retired Navy SEAL and Lone Survivor Marcus Luttrell, Morgan Luttrell, and Producer Andrew Brockenbush as they’ll take you into the “briefing room” to chat with incredible guests who share their greatest never quit stories. This humorous, heartfelt, and entertaining podcast is changing lives and has become a beacon of hope and resilience to those who are facing the impossible. One of the best ways we can support our community is to share their stories so that we might inspire others to Never Quit.
We’re bringing you real-life stories of men and women who took life’s toughest challenges and met them head-on, radically changing their own lives and inspiring others to do the same.
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Each week join Retired Navy SEAL and Lone Survivor Marcus Luttrell, Morgan Luttrell, and Producer Andrew Brockenbush as they’ll take you into the “briefing room” to chat with incredible guests who share their greatest never quit stories. This humorous, heartfelt, and entertaining podcast is changing lives and has become a beacon of hope and resilience to those who are facing the impossible. One of the best ways we can support our community is to share their stories so that we might inspire others to Never Quit.
We’re bringing you real-life stories of men and women who took life’s toughest challenges and met them head-on, radically changing their own lives and inspiring others to do the same.



![PHIL DONLON & GABE MANN: Forged in Fire: The True Stories of Americas Hotshot Wildfire Warriors
Into the Fire: Storytelling and Survival with Phil Donlon & Gabe Mann
In this week’s Team Never Quit podcast, Marcus and Melanie dive deep into the art of storytelling—both on stage and in the heat of real-life danger. Our guests are two visionary filmmakers with unique, gripping perspectives on their craft: Phil Donlon, award-winning actor, filmmaker, and theater veteran, and Gabe Mann, director and cinematographer of the groundbreaking wildfire documentary Hotshot.
Phil Donlon takes us through his journey from the blue-collar streets of Chicago to the bright lights of Hollywood. A founding member of The Gilead Theater Company and a passionate storyteller, Donlon shares his experiences acting in renowned theater productions, signing with WME, and ultimately finding creative fulfillment by writing and directing his own films. His latest project, High & Outside: A Baseball Noir, is now streaming worldwide.
On the other end of the spectrum, Gabe Mann puts us directly in the line of fire—literally. His documentary Hotshot is a heart-pounding, first-person account of elite wildfire fighters who battle the flames without water, capturing their raw courage with breathtaking cinematography. After six years running alongside these real-life heroes, Mann shares the intensity, sacrifice, and unexpected pull of wildfire that changed his life forever.
From the front lines of nature’s most destructive force, this episode is about the power of storytelling, survival, and the relentless pursuit of passion.
Tune in for a conversation that will leave you inspired, shaken, and ready to chase your own fire.
In this episode you will hear:
• There’s something about when you witness wildfire firsthand. It does something to you. The actual firefighters call it “The Firebug.” It taps into something primal in men. I caught it. 6:00
• Most of the photojournalists who actually do this right, are former firefighters. They actually have that certification. But for the most part, the kinds of people who are reporting for the Washington Post or The New York Times – they have no clue. 7:56
• I’m a storyteller. So however I’m doing it, whether I’m an actor, whether I’m producing something, writing it – I just want to tell good stories. 9:46
• We wanted to make a film that played like a narrative feature. 11:15
• They’re so distracted with the climate change narrative, which really has nothing to do with wildfires. It’s the accumulation of fuel. 12:08
• I’m the only dude in LA who’s actually from LA. 12:37
• When you continue to put it on something that we don’t have control over – like the weather – it’s a completely disempowering narrative. 14:04
• A wildfire is composed of 3 things. It’s called a fire triangle. You need all 3: Drought, Fuel, Ignition. 17:02
• People were crying over all these giant Redwoods and Sequoias that were getting burned down back in 2020. And nobody ever asked the very obvious question. These trees are 2,000 years old, but the fire cycle in that forest is once every 300 years – you get a purging wildfire – How did get to be 2,000 years old? What happened 2,000 years ago that made these trees so robust? 17:39
• There’s some people who have this gene that compels them to serve their country. 25:32
• If we can get some people in Washington to see this film, I think we could help make change. 27:03
• We have agency over wildfire. We can be proactive. We could solve it tomorrow, if we know what we’re supposed to do. If we look at what a hotshot crew does – literally all they do is get rid of plants. They’re either cutting them or burning them. That’s it. They don’t use water. 28:05
• We started the film with a question. I think doing that gives people the opportunity to engage with the art in the appropriate way, which is – they answer the question. 47:34
• Our motto when we were making this film was “Show, don’t tell.” 52:22
• This is what art is for. It is for explaining and getting people to feel the things that you cannot adequately convey with words.
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![EPHRAIM MATTOS: Navy SEAL to Frontline Humanitarian—Risking It All to Aid Civilians in War Zones
From Navy SEAL to Humanitarian: Ephraim Mattos on Courage, Sacrifice, and Saving Lives in War Zones.
In this powerful episode, Marcus and Melanie meet with Ephraim Mattos, a former US Navy SEAL and founder of Stronghold Rescue & Relief. After leaving the SEAL teams in 2017 at the age of 24, Ephraim made a bold decision: instead of returning home, he volunteered on the front lines of the war against ISIS in Mosul, Iraq. His experiences there would change him forever.
Ephraim shares harrowing details from his time with the Free Burma Rangers, a humanitarian group that provides aid to civilians in war zones. He recounts the unimaginable horrors he witnessed, from civilians fleeing the brutality of ISIS to the daring rescue missions he and his team conducted under constant enemy fire. One of these missions, during which Ephraim was shot while rescuing a young Iraqi girl, exemplifies the courage and sacrifice required to save lives in the most dangerous places on Earth.
We dive deep into Ephraim’s personal journey, chronicled in his book City of Death: Humanitarian Warriors in the Battle of Mosul, coauthored with American Sniper writer Scott McEwen. The conversation explores what it’s like to face death on a daily basis and how Ephraim and his fellow volunteers embodied the credo: “Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.”
In this episode, Ephraim reflects on the emotional and physical scars of war, his recovery from his gunshot wound, and his unwavering commitment to helping those in need, even in the most perilous conditions. His stories of bravery, resilience, and humanity will leave you speechless.
In This Episode You Will Hear:
• Probably the biggest thing I learned in training that applies to everyday life is when things go really, really bad, one of the best ways of dealing with it, and actually pushing through is to laugh at it. (1:29)
• I had my finger on the trigger. I had pressure on the trigger, just waiting for them to come out so I could get a body shot, and 2 heads pop out. It turns out it’s two little girls. One was maybe ten; the other may five or six. They were weeping, crying, and they were running straight at me. And they were both wearing backpacks just like the backpacks that are just like the backpacks we just blew up an hour earlier. And they’re running straight at me. (25:22)
• I was in a firefight in Iraq, technically before my last day in the Navy. (29:19)
• [The Iraqi army] They weren’t super organized , or marksmanship, but as far as their courage and willingness to go toe to toe with ISIS, and I watched multiple time – an Iraqi tank would drive up, get blown up by an ISIS car bomb. And they would keep going. (31:25)
• We assist every way we can, and we build relationships, by showing them we care, we’re here to help, we’re not crazy, we’re not her to get in a gunfight. We just want to help you. (33:43)
• We provide frontline mentorship for active security threats. If a tribe is facing genocide, we’ll advise them on how to best use the resources they already have. (34:09)
• There’s a certain level of evil that people just don’t see or understand. They don’t understand a military unit would go into a village and just slaughter everybody. (36:06)
• For people who actually care, what do you do? How do you help? (42:48)
• If you care about what’s going on in these conflicts, find multiple organizations that you like and give a little bit so several of them. You can make an impact, without having to take all the risk. (43:50)
• 99.9 percent of our job is logistics, medical care, training medical care, suffering in the jungle. Yes, you’re armed, but you’re not there to get your rocks off. (48:11)
• We bring in primarily guys with medic training. We don’t bring in full-fledged doctors because the kind of stuff we’re dealing with is emergency care – people stepping on land mines or getting shot. (50:38)
• A couple of American missionaries were killed in Haiti. Stuff like that happens all the time. Nobody hears about it. It gets instantly buried under celebrity gossip and such. (53:19)
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![Remi Adeleke: The Incredible Journey From SEAL Teams To Hollywood & Host of the “Down Range” Podcast
In this episode, Marcus has the privilege of hosting a remarkable individual who has traversed diverse worlds – from the military to Hollywood, and beyond. Remi Adeleke, born in Nigeria, is not only an accomplished writer and actor but also a fierce advocate against organ trafficking. Join us as we delve into his incredible journey, from the streets of the Bronx to the high-stakes world of Navy SEALs and the glimmering lights of the entertainment industry.
Remi’s life story is one of resilience and determination. His world took a drastic turn following the death of his father. At just five years old, Remi, alongside his mother and brother, embarked on a new chapter in the Bronx, New York. Little did he know, this move would set the stage for a life of extraordinary experiences.
Driven by a profound sense of duty and an unyielding spirit, Remi enlisted in the Navy, but his journey didn’t stop there – he went on to join the elite Navy SEALs, specializing in combat medicine and HUMINT (Human Intelligence/tradecraft).
From the battlefield to the big screen, Remi’s transition into the world of Hollywood is a tale of its own. His notable roles in films such as “Ambulance” (2022), “Special Forces: World’s Toughest Test” (2023), and “Plane” (2023) highlight not only his acting prowess but also the breadth of his experiences.
Beyond the glamour of Hollywood, Remi is actively engaged in a cause close to his heart – combating organ trafficking. Drawing from personal experiences and a commitment to justice, Remi works tirelessly to raise awareness and combat this illicit trade. We explore the motivations behind his involvement in this critical issue and discuss the impact he hopes to make in the fight against organ trafficking.
Join us as we unravel the layers of this multifaceted individual, gaining insights into the extraordinary life of a man who continues to inspire others through his actions and advocacy.
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In this episode you will hear:
• [Marcus] I wanted to be a Navy SEAL so bad, but I just thought it was impossible. (6:41)
• Every single day of my life I try to maintain a standard of excellence. (7:51)
• I feel like I owe it to guys who gave their lives. (8:01)
• I want to be excellent because I want to honor their legacy. (8:18)
• I love America. I’m not ashamed to say it. (8:31)
• It’s so interesting how so many people outside America see it, and love it, and want it. (9:03)
• [Marcus] When you really appreciate being an American is when you freakin’ leave. (9:19)
• A lot of people don’t know this, but Nigeria is a very rich country, because there’s so much oils, natural gas, gold, and minerals. (9:59)
• 9-11 played a role in me getting into the military. It’s bittersweet. (18:08)
• [Organ trafficking] is a multi-billion dollar industry. (23:27)
• There are some corrupt doctors that on the American border playing a role – “providing intelligence” to organ harvesters. (24:25)
• A woman in India traveled to New Delhi for a job. When she went to get a physical, she heard the nurse say to the doctor “this is the girl who’s giving these organs”. She ran out, alerted the police and uncovered a multimillion dollar organ harvesting ring, any of whom were doctors. (25:21)
• We’re not dealing with idiots. We’re dealing with intelligent people. (26:41)
• My feature film is called: “Unexpected Redemption.” (31:02)
• I love storytelling. I love taking and idea from the beginning, writing a screenplay, rolling a camera and shooting it. (32:03)
• It’s a very tough business to be in, but just that “no quit” attitude had stayed with me. (32:58)
It’s all about the story to me. What message can impact people the most? (33:56)
• Fear breeds fear; Calm breeds calm. (43:35)—
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![MARC LAWRENCE: Vietnam Veteran and Silver Star Recipient.
Honoring Valor: A Conversation with Vietnam Veteran and Silver Star Recipient Marc Lawrence
In this week’s Team Never Quit Podcast, we have the honor of speaking with Marc Lawrence, a Vietnam veteran and recipient of the prestigious Silver Star for his acts of gallantry in combat. Marc shares his incredible journey, from his early days growing up, to his experiences in the Vietnam War, and how those experiences shaped his life afterward. This episode is a tribute to his bravery, sacrifice, and the resilience of the human spirit. His story is one of courage, dedication, and unwavering patriotism.
Marc recounts some his experiences in Vietnam, the challenges he faced, and the importance of remembering and honoring the sacrifices made by service members.
Marc’s experiences in Vietnam shaped his outlook on life and leadership.
Thank you for listening, and don’t forget to honor our veterans.
In This Episode You Will Hear:
• As a kid, we grew up reading Sergeant Rock comic books, and we were playing Army in the woods, and a buddy & I played Frogmen. We had boats and we would slip into the canals and go underwater in the middle of the night. (8:03)
• In basic training I learned the joys of KP and guard duty. (9:05)
• The first thing you learn in a firefight – you can’t hear anything. (25:42)
• I’m on the ground in a prone position. A bullet went under my hand, through my sling, between my arm and my chest, and tore out the stock of my gun. Stray bullet. (26:16)
• What am I gonna do when the shit hits the fan? My body was so full of adrenaline. When 3 events happened – [I thought] “I can’t get killed.” (31:15)
• After I realized I can’t get killed, I threw caution to the wind. (31:35)
• I always heard the mortars – never heard this one. And it threw me back. I don’t know what’s going on. One piece of shrapnel peeled my scalp back. (33:20)
• All the crazy things I did was to train me for this one night so I could save my men. (42:17)
• My last minute in the Army typifies my entire Army career. The finance Corps Major sees me. Goes to his pay clerk and gives an order not to pay me until I get a haircut. (44:06)
• One day, I get this box in the mail I open it up and it’s a Silver Star. I didn’t tell anybody. They didn’t know what it was anyway. (46:57)
• The doctors told me: “Son, we don’t know if you’re gonna be able to walk again or not. My exact words Wer “Fuck you, I’m walking out of your Goddamn hospital.” (48:49)
• President [Bush] looked at me and said and said “Son, I know what it takes to get one of those [Silver Star]. I want to shake your hand.” (58:37)
• My life driven by outside forces that I can’t control. (62:25)
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![SIDNEY BLAIR: SWAT Team, Secret Service, Detective, Gang Unit & Air Marshall For Homeland Security
A life of service.
That’s the best description for this week’s guest and friend of the Team Never Quit Podcast.
Marcus brings to the table Sidney Blair, who has served on a SWAT Team, Gang Unit, Detective, Air Marshal for Homeland Security, then retired, and has once again returned to police work for the Walker County Texas Sheriff’s Department.
If ever there was a man with a relentless heart of service to people, coupled with character and integrity, it’s Sidney Blair.
In this episode you will hear:
• My first paying job was as the [Piggly Wiggly] Pig in the 4th of July Parade in Huntsville, Texas. (12:53)
• Troopers have great uniforms. They’re like a recruiting poster. (14:38)
• In Texas, a Peace Officer, is a Peace Officer, is a Peace Officer – whether you’re a Game Warden, a State Trooper, or City Cop or County Cop. (21:42)
• Your job is to protect and serve. You go out to the good citizens of your county, or city, or state, or your federal jurisdiction, and you protect from any evils that exist, including themselves. (25:52)
• Al lot of police officers will become calorically challenged. (26:58)
• Fear is forced. Respect is earned. (29:32)
• The government is paying my salary. My job is to get out there and change your tire. (33:27)
• I still have some fight left in me. I still want to serve my community. I still want to help the people that need help. (37:34)
• I spent 19 of my 20 years at the Air Marshals. (44:06)
• I had a retirement party from the Air Marshals that I didn’t know about. (57:18)
• You should serve something larger than yourself if you have the ability to do it. (64:11)
• If you have never stood before a man with a badge in handcuffs, and he held your freedom and life in his hands, and he gave you a break, and you knew what a break you got – you ain’t qualified to be a cop. (66:49)
• You see someone get out of hand – I don’t care if they’re in uniform; you pull them off. You physically remove them from the scene. You save them from themselves. (68:10)
• People feed off of bad news. (76:25)
• The worst thing in the world that we have is the breakdown of the nucleus of the family that people don’t have upbringing where they learn to respect other people. (80:05)
• Soft times build soft people. (81:37)
• When you defund the police, I can tell you the very first place it comes from – training. (88:45)
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Special Thanks / Credits
Executive Producer & Artwork - Andrew Brockenbush
Audio Engineer - Joey Garza
Video Editor - John Fritzsching
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About TNQ Podcast:
Each week join Retired Navy SEAL and Lone Survivor Marcus Luttrell, Morgan Luttrell, and Producer Andrew Brockenbush as they’ll take you into the “briefing room” to chat with incredible guests who share their greatest never quit stories. This humorous, heartfelt, and entertaining podcast is changing lives and has become a beacon of hope and resilience to those who are facing the impossible. One of the best ways we can support our community is to share their stories so that we might inspire others to Never Quit.
We’re bringing you real-life stories of men and women who took life’s toughest challenges and met them head-on, radically changing their own lives and inspiring others to do the same. SIDNEY BLAIR: SWAT Team, Secret Service, Detective, Gang Unit & Air Marshall For Homeland Security](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/YDjN2SQuMW4/mqdefault.jpg)
![BEN KESLING: Wall Street Journal, Former Marine Corps Infantry Officer & Author of Bravo Company
Understanding war and the never-ending effects it has on veterans coming home from it is what this week’s Team Never Quit Podcast guest, Ben Kesling, lives to convey. After having joined and served in the Marine Corps as an officer in Iraq and Afghanistan, Ben went back to school to become a journalist and put his war experience to use reporting for the Wall Street Journal as a foreign and combat correspondent. Because of his experiences, Ben has a unique perspective on the effects of war and spends his time focusing on veteran n affairs and domestic security issues.
Ben also authored the book, Bravo Company, telling the inside story of the war in Afghanistan through the eyes of the men of one particular unit, whose war didn’t end for those soldiers when they came home. Bravo Company follows the men from their initial enlistment and training, through their deployment, and on to what has happened to them in the decade since.
An interesting side note: Ben Kesling is a two-day Jeopardy! champion.
In this episode you will hear:
To know that you’re talking to someone who’s been there and understands what you’re dealing with opens up a whole world.
Being in Iraq and Afghanistan helped me immensely because I was able to see those things and understand what soldiers were dealing with.
In my book, Bravo Company, I wanted to tell their story. I didn’t want to tell my story.
When you go to the VA, you’re treated as an individual, and we almost forget that we were part of a unit.
The reunion that Bravo Company did brought them all together to remind them that they are members of a team. Strength to the group brings strength to the individuals.
One thing we can do for each other is to have graciousness and empathy. We all carry the same weight, though some are more publicly known.
There’s the trauma we go through just by living our lives.
[Melanie]: That’s why we started Team Never Quit. It’s persevering through hard times.
No man is an island. We’re not doing this on our own.
You need people around you who love and care for you and to call you out on your bullshit.
A burden is not a curse. It’s what life gives you. It can be a curse and a blessing.
Anytime we try to do something by ourselves, we must remember we’re members of a team.
[Marcus]: The irony of life: Some people will have a skillset that you won’t possess.
Thru my book, I hope that people who have never served can understand what it’s like to be in combat.
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For More Fun, Follow:
Team Never Quit
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Marcus Luttrell
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marcusluttrell/
Morgan Luttrell:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mojoluttrell/
Andrew Brockenbush:
https://www.instagram.com/andrewbrockenbush/
—
Support the Show
http://patreon.com/teamneverquit
—
Special Thanks / Credits
Executive Producer & Artwork - Andrew Brockenbush
Audio Engineer - Joey Garza
Video Editor - John Fritzsching
—
About TNQ Podcast:
Each week join Retired Navy SEAL and Lone Survivor Marcus Luttrell, Morgan Luttrell, and Producer Andrew Brockenbush as they’ll take you into the “briefing room” to chat with incredible guests who share their greatest never quit stories. This humorous, heartfelt, and entertaining podcast is changing lives and has become a beacon of hope and resilience to those who are facing the impossible. One of the best ways we can support our community is to share their stories so that we might inspire others to Never Quit.
We’re bringing you real-life stories of men and women who took life’s toughest challenges and met them head-on, radically changing their own lives and inspiring others to do the same. BEN KESLING: Wall Street Journal, Former Marine Corps Infantry Officer & Author of Bravo Company](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/YW_XUAZCpcE/mqdefault.jpg)