Uploaded August 2026 | Updated September 2026, 1 week ago
Scientology isn’t just trying to recruit adults. They’re now marketing a “full library” for kids aged seven and up, and we’re not guessing about what it means because we can read exactly what they’re putting in front of children. I’m joined by Anne Gollert, who brings both lived experience and a background in linguistics to explain why seven is such a vulnerable age for ideological conditioning, loaded language, and social control.
We walk through what’s inside these glossy, kid-targeted books: the ARC triangle, the emotional tone scale, “body mind thetan,” “how the mind works,” assists, “honesty,” and even communication drills like TR0 and TR0 bullbait. We talk plainly about what that training does to a child’s boundaries, how it teaches compliance as survival, and why redefining “reality” as agreement can quietly lay the groundwork for disconnection from family. We also dig into the tone scale’s “covert hostility” framing, how it plants mistrust, and why Scientology’s long-standing labeling of LGBTQ people matters when these ideas are taught as basic truth.
From there, we zoom out to the real-world consequences Scientology tries to hide: internal attitudes toward children, the way OSA writes about families, and why Suri Cruise choosing “Suri Noel” hits so hard for anyone who understands Scientology’s family pressure. We also honor the heartbreaking story of Jack Denine and the wider pattern of loss tied to isolation, disconnection, and the shame around seeking real mental health support.
If you ever see these materials in schools, libraries, or youth programs, please reach out and let us know. Subscribe, share the episode, and leave a review so more people understand what Scientology is doing to children before it’s too late.
Chapters:
0:00 - Welcome And Why This Matters
1:20 - Scientology Targets Kids Seven And Up
3:30 - The Book Set And Hidden Branding
13:30 - Communication Drills And Boundary Erosion
19:20 - Tone Scale And Training Distrust
25:00 - “How To Be Happy” And Confession Culture
32:40 - Thetan And Reactive Mind Messaging
39:50 - Hubbard Quote About A Seven-Year-Old
42:30 - Linguistics And Why Kids Can’t Evaluate Claims
56:20 - Leaving Scientology And Relearning Emotions
59:30 - Suri Noel And OSA Files On A Baby
1:09:35 - Disconnection And The Loss Of Jack Denine
1:13:50 - Spotting These Books And What To Do
1:16:55 - Final Thanks And Support Links
Part 1 with Anne Gollert Hill: youtu.be/Qby-jZGYCZk?si=C2NI9TBId8L8TRyI
Part 2 with Anne Gollert Hill: youtu.be/5pQ_HYUANpc?si=iXSct8C0JFxXz285
Learn more and follow Anne here:
TikTok: / annegollerthill
Substack: substack.com/@annegollerthill
Book: joywithoutapology.com
Website: annegollerthill.com
RIP Jack Dineen. Our deepest condolences to Jack's family on this tragic loss. Read Sunny's post about this here: substack.com/home/post/p-207689898
Blown For Good Website: blownforgood.com
PODCAST INFO:
Apple Podcasts: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/blown-for-good-behind-the-iron-curtain-of-scientology/id1671284503
Spotify: open.spotify.com/show/6NZGCcRjr8jQRFrqugdfJK
SOCIAL:
- Twitter: twitter.com/blownforgood
- Facebook: facebook.com/blownforgoodbook
- Instagram: instagram.com/blownforgood/?hl=en
- Tiktok - tiktok.com/@blownforgood
- Twitch - twitch.tv/blownforgood
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Scientology isn’t just trying to recruit adults. They’re now marketing a “full library” for kids aged seven and up, and we’re not guessing about what it means because we can read exactly what they’re putting in front of children. I’m joined by Anne Gollert, who brings both lived experience and a background in linguistics to explain why seven is such a vulnerable age for ideological conditioning, loaded language, and social control.
We walk through what’s inside these glossy, kid-targeted books: the ARC triangle, the emotional tone scale, “body mind thetan,” “how the mind works,” assists, “honesty,” and even communication drills like TR0 and TR0 bullbait. We talk plainly about what that training does to a child’s boundaries, how it teaches compliance as survival, and why redefining “reality” as agreement can quietly lay the groundwork for disconnection from family. We also dig into the tone scale’s “covert hostility” framing, how it plants mistrust, and why Scientology’s long-standing labeling of LGBTQ people matters when these ideas are taught as basic truth.
From there, we zoom out to the real-world consequences Scientology tries to hide: internal attitudes toward children, the way OSA writes about families, and why Suri Cruise choosing “Suri Noel” hits so hard for anyone who understands Scientology’s family pressure. We also honor the heartbreaking story of Jack Denine and the wider pattern of loss tied to isolation, disconnection, and the shame around seeking real mental health support.
If you ever see these materials in schools, libraries, or youth programs, please reach out and let us know. Subscribe, share the episode, and leave a review so more people understand what Scientology is doing to children before it’s too late.
Chapters:
0:00 - Welcome And Why This Matters
1:20 - Scientology Targets Kids Seven And Up
3:30 - The Book Set And Hidden Branding
13:30 - Communication Drills And Boundary Erosion
19:20 - Tone Scale And Training Distrust
25:00 - “How To Be Happy” And Confession Culture
32:40 - Thetan And Reactive Mind Messaging
39:50 - Hubbard Quote About A Seven-Year-Old
42:30 - Linguistics And Why Kids Can’t Evaluate Claims
56:20 - Leaving Scientology And Relearning Emotions
59:30 - Suri Noel And OSA Files On A Baby
1:09:35 - Disconnection And The Loss Of Jack Denine
1:13:50 - Spotting These Books And What To Do
1:16:55 - Final Thanks And Support Links
Part 1 with Anne Gollert Hill: youtu.be/Qby-jZGYCZk?si=C2NI9TBId8L8TRyI
Part 2 with Anne Gollert Hill: youtu.be/5pQ_HYUANpc?si=iXSct8C0JFxXz285
Learn more and follow Anne here:
TikTok: / annegollerthill
Substack: substack.com/@annegollerthill
Book: joywithoutapology.com
Website: annegollerthill.com
RIP Jack Dineen. Our deepest condolences to Jack's family on this tragic loss. Read Sunny's post about this here: substack.com/home/post/p-207689898
Blown For Good Website: blownforgood.com
PODCAST INFO:
Apple Podcasts: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/blown-for-good-behind-the-iron-curtain-of-scientology/id1671284503
Spotify: open.spotify.com/show/6NZGCcRjr8jQRFrqugdfJK
SOCIAL:
- Twitter: twitter.com/blownforgood
- Facebook: facebook.com/blownforgoodbook
- Instagram: instagram.com/blownforgood/?hl=en
- Tiktok - tiktok.com/@blownforgood
- Twitch - twitch.tv/blownforgood
The Michael J. Rinder Aftermath Foundation: theaftermathfoundation.org
SP Shop: thespshop.com
Every sale of Fake Navy Davey - Dolls directly supports The Michael J. Rinder Aftermath Foundation! Get yours before they are all done!! the-sp-shop.fourthwall.com/products/fake-navy-davey-elf-sized-doll
#scientology #davidmiscavige #dannymasterson #truecrime #missing #shellymiscavige #tomcruise #scientologyandtheaftermath #lronhubbard #miscavige #cult #ScientologyLeaks #ScientologyBeliefs #ScientologyPractices
