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Jarrette Schule is the Founder and CTO of TenFore Golf, a cloud-based, all-in-one management platform built for golf courses and recreational facilities. He founded the company in 2015 after recognizing the limitations of legacy golf management systems. As TenFore’s lead architect, Jarrette directs its technology vision and product development, creating mobile-first tools that help single- and multi-course facilities streamline operations, increase revenue, and improve the golfer experience.
Here’s a glimpse of what you’ll learn:
• [0:00] Intro
• [3:47] Jarrette Schule explains TenFore Golf’s all-in-one platform for course and facility management
• [6:49] The beverage delivery idea that inspired Jarrette to enter golf software
• [9:56] Why customer feedback pushed TenFore beyond its original mobile app
• [13:19] Jarrette’s early pricing model that removed costs for golf course operators
• [17:28] Lessons from changing SaaS pricing and navigating payment processors
• [25:42] How Jarrette won early customers and expanded beyond San Antonio
• [31:52] Landing TenFore’s first major multi-course operator and scaling the platform
• [37:50] Why Jarrette moved from CEO to CTO to focus on product and technology
In this episode…
Golf courses often juggle outdated systems for tee times, payments, food service, reporting, and customer engagement. What does it take to replace those fragmented systems with one platform designed around how modern facilities operate?
Jarrette Schule, a lifelong software developer with decades of experience building technology, explains that successful golf management software must address the entire operation rather than solve one isolated problem. He highlights the importance of listening to course operators, validating recurring needs, and designing tools around real-world workflows.
Sponsor for this episode
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We help you cultivate amazing relationships in 2 ways:
#1 Podcasting
#2 Strategic Gifting
#1 Our Predictable Podcast ROI Program
We’re committed to helping you connect with your Dream 200 referral partners, clients, and strategic partners through our done-for-you podcast solution.
We’re a professional podcast production agency that makes creating a podcast effortless. Since 2009, our proven system has helped thousands of B2B businesses build strong relationships with referral partners, clients, and audiences without doing the hard work.
What do you need to start a podcast?
When you use our proven system, all you need is an idea and a voice. We handle the strategy, production, and distribution — you just need to show up and talk.
The Rise25 podcasting solution is designed to help you build a profitable podcast. This requires a specific strategy, and we’ve got that down pat. We focus on making sure you have a direct path to ROI — plus, our podcast production company takes any heavy lifting of production and distribution off your plate.
We make distribution easy.
We’ll distribute each episode across more than 11 unique channels, including iTunes, Spotify, and Amazon Podcasts. We’ll also create copy for each episode and promote your show across social media.
Cofounders Dr. Jeremy Weisz and John Corcoran credit podcasting as being the best thing they have ever done for their businesses. Podcasting connected them with the founders/CEOs of P90x, Atari, Einstein Bagels, Mattel, Rx Bars, YPO, EO, Lending Tree, Freshdesk, and many more.
The relationships you form through podcasting run deep. Jeremy and John became business partners through podcasting. They have even gone on family vacations and attended weddings of guests who have been on the podcast.
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Jarrette Schule is the Founder and CTO of TenFore Golf, a cloud-based, all-in-one management platform built for golf courses and recreational facilities. He founded the company in 2015 after recognizing the limitations of legacy golf management systems. As TenFore’s lead architect, Jarrette directs its technology vision and product development, creating mobile-first tools that help single- and multi-course facilities streamline operations, increase revenue, and improve the golfer experience.
Here’s a glimpse of what you’ll learn:
• [0:00] Intro
• [3:47] Jarrette Schule explains TenFore Golf’s all-in-one platform for course and facility management
• [6:49] The beverage delivery idea that inspired Jarrette to enter golf software
• [9:56] Why customer feedback pushed TenFore beyond its original mobile app
• [13:19] Jarrette’s early pricing model that removed costs for golf course operators
• [17:28] Lessons from changing SaaS pricing and navigating payment processors
• [25:42] How Jarrette won early customers and expanded beyond San Antonio
• [31:52] Landing TenFore’s first major multi-course operator and scaling the platform
• [37:50] Why Jarrette moved from CEO to CTO to focus on product and technology
In this episode…
Golf courses often juggle outdated systems for tee times, payments, food service, reporting, and customer engagement. What does it take to replace those fragmented systems with one platform designed around how modern facilities operate?
Jarrette Schule, a lifelong software developer with decades of experience building technology, explains that successful golf management software must address the entire operation rather than solve one isolated problem. He highlights the importance of listening to course operators, validating recurring needs, and designing tools around real-world workflows.
Sponsor for this episode
At https://rise25.com, we help B2B businesses give to and connect to your Dream 200 relationships and partnerships.
We help you cultivate amazing relationships in 2 ways:
#1 Podcasting
#2 Strategic Gifting
#1 Our Predictable Podcast ROI Program
We’re committed to helping you connect with your Dream 200 referral partners, clients, and strategic partners through our done-for-you podcast solution.
We’re a professional podcast production agency that makes creating a podcast effortless. Since 2009, our proven system has helped thousands of B2B businesses build strong relationships with referral partners, clients, and audiences without doing the hard work.
What do you need to start a podcast?
When you use our proven system, all you need is an idea and a voice. We handle the strategy, production, and distribution — you just need to show up and talk.
The Rise25 podcasting solution is designed to help you build a profitable podcast. This requires a specific strategy, and we’ve got that down pat. We focus on making sure you have a direct path to ROI — plus, our podcast production company takes any heavy lifting of production and distribution off your plate.
We make distribution easy.
We’ll distribute each episode across more than 11 unique channels, including iTunes, Spotify, and Amazon Podcasts. We’ll also create copy for each episode and promote your show across social media.
Cofounders Dr. Jeremy Weisz and John Corcoran credit podcasting as being the best thing they have ever done for their businesses. Podcasting connected them with the founders/CEOs of P90x, Atari, Einstein Bagels, Mattel, Rx Bars, YPO, EO, Lending Tree, Freshdesk, and many more.
The relationships you form through podcasting run deep. Jeremy and John became business partners through podcasting. They have even gone on family vacations and attended weddings of guests who have been on the podcast.
#2 Our Comprehensive Corporate Gifting Program
Elevate business relationships with customers, partners, staff, and prospects through gifting.
At Rise25, thoughtful and consistent gifting is a key component of staying top of mind and helps build lasting business relationships. Our done-for-you corporate gifting service ensures that your referral partners, prospects, and clients receive personalized touchpoints that enhance your business gifting efforts and provide a refined executive gifting experience.
Whether you’re looking to impress key stakeholders or boost client loyalty, our comprehensive approach makes it easy and affordable to create lasting impressions. Get started today and experience the difference a strategic gifting approach can make.
You can learn more and watch a video on how it works here: rise25.com/giftprogram
Contact us now at support@rise25.com or message us here: rise25.com/contact
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![[SaaS Series] The All-in-One Platform Modernizing Golf Operations With Jarrette Schule](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/sD4gbWr34X8/mqdefault.jpg "[SaaS Series] The All-in-One Platform Modernizing Golf Operations With Jarrette Schule
Book a Complimentary B2B Podcast Strategy Call:
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https://rise25.com/podcastcheatsheetyt
Jarrette Schule is the Founder and CTO of TenFore Golf, a cloud-based, all-in-one management platform built for golf courses and recreational facilities. He founded the company in 2015 after recognizing the limitations of legacy golf management systems. As TenFore’s lead architect, Jarrette directs its technology vision and product development, creating mobile-first tools that help single- and multi-course facilities streamline operations, increase revenue, and improve the golfer experience.
Here’s a glimpse of what you’ll learn:
• [0:00] Intro
• [3:47] Jarrette Schule explains TenFore Golf’s all-in-one platform for course and facility management
• [6:49] The beverage delivery idea that inspired Jarrette to enter golf software
• [9:56] Why customer feedback pushed TenFore beyond its original mobile app
• [13:19] Jarrette’s early pricing model that removed costs for golf course operators
• [17:28] Lessons from changing SaaS pricing and navigating payment processors
• [25:42] How Jarrette won early customers and expanded beyond San Antonio
• [31:52] Landing TenFore’s first major multi-course operator and scaling the platform
• [37:50] Why Jarrette moved from CEO to CTO to focus on product and technology
In this episode…
Golf courses often juggle outdated systems for tee times, payments, food service, reporting, and customer engagement. What does it take to replace those fragmented systems with one platform designed around how modern facilities operate?
Jarrette Schule, a lifelong software developer with decades of experience building technology, explains that successful golf management software must address the entire operation rather than solve one isolated problem. He highlights the importance of listening to course operators, validating recurring needs, and designing tools around real-world workflows.
Sponsor for this episode
At https://rise25.com, we help B2B businesses give to and connect to your Dream 200 relationships and partnerships.
We help you cultivate amazing relationships in 2 ways:
#1 Podcasting
#2 Strategic Gifting
#1 Our Predictable Podcast ROI Program
We’re committed to helping you connect with your Dream 200 referral partners, clients, and strategic partners through our done-for-you podcast solution.
We’re a professional podcast production agency that makes creating a podcast effortless. Since 2009, our proven system has helped thousands of B2B businesses build strong relationships with referral partners, clients, and audiences without doing the hard work.
What do you need to start a podcast?
When you use our proven system, all you need is an idea and a voice. We handle the strategy, production, and distribution — you just need to show up and talk.
The Rise25 podcasting solution is designed to help you build a profitable podcast. This requires a specific strategy, and we’ve got that down pat. We focus on making sure you have a direct path to ROI — plus, our podcast production company takes any heavy lifting of production and distribution off your plate.
We make distribution easy.
We’ll distribute each episode across more than 11 unique channels, including iTunes, Spotify, and Amazon Podcasts. We’ll also create copy for each episode and promote your show across social media.
Cofounders Dr. Jeremy Weisz and John Corcoran credit podcasting as being the best thing they have ever done for their businesses. Podcasting connected them with the founders/CEOs of P90x, Atari, Einstein Bagels, Mattel, Rx Bars, YPO, EO, Lending Tree, Freshdesk, and many more.
The relationships you form through podcasting run deep. Jeremy and John became business partners through podcasting. They have even gone on family vacations and attended weddings of guests who have been on the podcast.
#2 Our Comprehensive Corporate Gifting Program
Elevate business relationships with customers, partners, staff, and prospects through gifting.
At Rise25, thoughtful and consistent gifting is a key component of staying top of mind and helps build lasting business relationships. Our done-for-you corporate gifting service ensures that your referral partners, prospects, and clients receive personalized touchpoints that enhance your business gifting efforts and provide a refined executive gifting experience.
Whether you’re looking to impress key stakeholders or boost client loyalty, our comprehensive approach makes it easy and affordable to create lasting impressions. Get started today and experience the difference a strategic gifting approach can make.
You can learn more and watch a video on how it works here: https://rise25.com/giftprogram
Contact us now at support@rise25.com or message us here: https://rise25.com/contact
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![[SaaS & Healthcare Series] Solving Healthcare’s Inventory Blind Spots With Michael Prokopis](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/su249IqS5ME/mqdefault.jpg "[SaaS & Healthcare Series] Solving Healthcare’s Inventory Blind Spots With Michael Prokopis
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Michael Prokopis is the CEO of DARVIS, an AI-powered company transforming healthcare inventory management through real-time visibility and autonomous solutions. Under his leadership, DARVIS is helping health systems use AI and computer vision to improve inventory accuracy, reduce waste, and prevent stockouts. Prior to DARVIS, he held senior roles at institutions including MD Anderson Cancer Center and Steward Health Care. A former US Navy Surface Warfare Officer, Michael has managed $3.2B+ in spending and driven $360M+ in savings through operational transformation and efficiency programs.
Here’s a glimpse of what you’ll learn:
• [0:00] Intro
• [4:04] Michael Prokopis shares how DARVIS brings real-time visibility to healthcare inventory
• [5:59] Why manual inventory tracking fails in large hospital systems
• [7:46] DARVIS’ evolution from mobile gaming to healthcare inventory technology
• [11:05] The massive supply chain challenges faced by MD Anderson Cancer Center
• [13:15] How AI-powered cameras achieve 98% inventory accuracy
• [17:45] Building a revolutionary healthcare AI platform with a lean engineering team
• [24:38] Breaking through red tape when selling technology to hospitals
In this episode…
Healthcare supply chains operate under constant pressure, where missing inventory can delay care, increase costs, and create major operational headaches. Yet many hospitals still rely on outdated manual tracking systems that lack real-time visibility. How can AI help healthcare systems reduce waste, prevent shortages, and make smarter inventory decisions?
For Michael Prokopis, a healthcare supply chain and operations veteran, the answer lies in combining AI-powered computer vision with real-time inventory intelligence.
Sponsor for this episode
At https://rise25.com, we help B2B businesses give to and connect to your Dream 200 relationships and partnerships.
We help you cultivate amazing relationships in 2 ways:
#1 Podcasting
#2 Strategic Gifting
#1 Our Predictable Podcast ROI Program
We’re committed to helping you connect with your Dream 200 referral partners, clients, and strategic partners through our done-for-you podcast solution.
We’re a professional podcast production agency that makes creating a podcast effortless. Since 2009, our proven system has helped thousands of B2B businesses build strong relationships with referral partners, clients, and audiences without doing the hard work.
What do you need to start a podcast?
When you use our proven system, all you need is an idea and a voice. We handle the strategy, production, and distribution — you just need to show up and talk.
The Rise25 podcasting solution is designed to help you build a profitable podcast. This requires a specific strategy, and we’ve got that down pat. We focus on making sure you have a direct path to ROI — plus, our podcast production company takes any heavy lifting of production and distribution off your plate.
We make distribution easy.
We’ll distribute each episode across more than 11 unique channels, including iTunes, Spotify, and Amazon Podcasts. We’ll also create copy for each episode and promote your show across social media.
Cofounders Dr. Jeremy Weisz and John Corcoran credit podcasting as being the best thing they have ever done for their businesses. Podcasting connected them with the founders/CEOs of P90x, Atari, Einstein Bagels, Mattel, Rx Bars, YPO, EO, Lending Tree, Freshdesk, and many more.
The relationships you form through podcasting run deep. Jeremy and John became business partners through podcasting. They have even gone on family vacations and attended weddings of guests who have been on the podcast.
#2 Our Comprehensive Corporate Gifting Program
Elevate business relationships with customers, partners, staff, and prospects through gifting.
At Rise25, thoughtful and consistent gifting is a key component of staying top of mind and helps build lasting business relationships. Our done-for-you corporate gifting service ensures that your referral partners, prospects, and clients receive personalized touchpoints that enhance your business gifting efforts and provide a refined executive gifting experience.
Whether you’re looking to impress key stakeholders or boost client loyalty, our comprehensive approach makes it easy and affordable to create lasting impressions. Get started today and experience the difference a strategic gifting approach can make.
You can learn more and watch a video on how it works here: https://rise25.com/giftprogram
Contact us now at support@rise25.com or message us here: https://rise25.com/contact
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![[SaaS Series] The All-in-One Platform Modernizing Golf Operations With Jarrette Schule](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ud1ddjd_9qU/mqdefault.jpg "[SaaS Series] The All-in-One Platform Modernizing Golf Operations With Jarrette Schule
Jarrette Schule is the Founder and CTO of TenFore Golf, a cloud-based, all-in-one management platform built for golf courses and recreational facilities. He founded the company in 2015 after recognizing the limitations of legacy golf management systems. As TenFore’s lead architect, Jarrette directs its technology vision and product development, creating mobile-first tools that help single- and multi-course facilities streamline operations, increase revenue, and improve the golfer experience.
In this episode… Golf courses often juggle outdated systems for tee times, payments, food service, reporting, and customer engagement. What does it take to replace those fragmented systems with one platform designed around how modern facilities operate?
Jarrette Schule, a lifelong software developer with decades of experience building technology, explains that successful golf management software must address the entire operation rather than solve one isolated problem. He highlights the importance of listening to course operators, validating recurring needs, and designing tools around real-world workflows. This customer-led approach helped transform an on-course beverage-ordering concept into a connected platform spanning tee sheets, point-of-sale, booking, payments, food and beverage, reporting, and self-service kiosks. By bringing an outside technology perspective to golf, Jarrette identified opportunities that legacy providers had overlooked. He also uses a “rule of three” to prioritize features that deliver value across multiple customers instead of reacting to every individual request.
In this episode of the Inspired Insider Podcast, Dr. Jeremy Weisz speaks with Jarrette Schule, Founder and CTO of TenFore Golf, to discuss building an all-in-one platform for modern golf operations. They explore the product’s evolution, customer-led development, and growth through multi-course operators. Jarrette also shares lessons from SaaS pricing, payment integrations, and moving from CEO to CTO.")
![[SaaS Series] AI and Automation in Global Energy Infrastructure With Bill Lenihan](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/usqibLsVvuw/mqdefault.jpg "[SaaS Series] AI and Automation in Global Energy Infrastructure With Bill Lenihan
Book a Complimentary B2B Podcast Strategy Call:
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Bill Lenihan is the Founder and CEO of ZOLA Intelligence (ZOLAi), a company delivering AI-driven enterprise technology solutions that are transforming energy infrastructure in emerging markets. Under his leadership, ZOLA has expanded across multiple countries, supported hundreds of thousands of off-grid facilities, and secured over $25 million in Series A funding. Bill has held operating and private equity roles at Goldman Sachs, Bain & Co., Calera Capital, and Switch Lighting, shaping his expertise in business expansion. He holds a BA in business and economics from UCLA and an MBA from The Wharton School.
Here’s a glimpse of what you’ll learn:
• [0:00] Intro
• [4:38] Bill Lenihan explains why energy infrastructure remains highly inefficient in emerging markets
• [7:23] Bill’s journey from private equity to solving energy access in emerging markets
• [9:10] The Tanzania visit that revealed the community-wide impact of reliable energy
• [16:07] How the pandemic pushed ZOLAi toward a pure technology focus
• [18:52] Rise of Zola Intelligence through data, workflow knowledge, and AI
• [24:50] Energy as a service as a simpler alternative to customers buying and maintaining hardware
• [31:50] Challenge of reaching telecom CEOs with new energy revenue opportunities
• [41:50] Bill’s advice on building a strong board to accelerate company growth
In this episode…
Across much of the world, access to reliable energy is still expensive, fragmented, and heavily manual. Communities and businesses often rely on outdated systems that are difficult to scale and maintain. What would it take to transform this broken infrastructure into an intelligent, connected energy network?
Sponsor for this episode
At https://rise25.com, we help B2B businesses give to and connect to your Dream 200 relationships and partnerships.
We help you cultivate amazing relationships in 2 ways:
#1 Podcasting
#2 Strategic Gifting
#1 Our Predictable Podcast ROI Program
We’re committed to helping you connect with your Dream 200 referral partners, clients, and strategic partners through our done-for-you podcast solution.
We’re a professional podcast production agency that makes creating a podcast effortless. Since 2009, our proven system has helped thousands of B2B businesses build strong relationships with referral partners, clients, and audiences without doing the hard work.
What do you need to start a podcast?
When you use our proven system, all you need is an idea and a voice. We handle the strategy, production, and distribution — you just need to show up and talk.
The Rise25 podcasting solution is designed to help you build a profitable podcast. This requires a specific strategy, and we’ve got that down pat. We focus on making sure you have a direct path to ROI — plus, our podcast production company takes any heavy lifting of production and distribution off your plate.
We make distribution easy.
We’ll distribute each episode across more than 11 unique channels, including iTunes, Spotify, and Amazon Podcasts. We’ll also create copy for each episode and promote your show across social media.
Cofounders Dr. Jeremy Weisz and John Corcoran credit podcasting as being the best thing they have ever done for their businesses. Podcasting connected them with the founders/CEOs of P90x, Atari, Einstein Bagels, Mattel, Rx Bars, YPO, EO, Lending Tree, Freshdesk, and many more.
The relationships you form through podcasting run deep. Jeremy and John became business partners through podcasting. They have even gone on family vacations and attended weddings of guests who have been on the podcast.
#2 Our Comprehensive Corporate Gifting Program
Elevate business relationships with customers, partners, staff, and prospects through gifting.
At Rise25, thoughtful and consistent gifting is a key component of staying top of mind and helps build lasting business relationships. Our done-for-you corporate gifting service ensures that your referral partners, prospects, and clients receive personalized touchpoints that enhance your business gifting efforts and provide a refined executive gifting experience.
Whether you’re looking to impress key stakeholders or boost client loyalty, our comprehensive approach makes it easy and affordable to create lasting impressions. Get started today and experience the difference a strategic gifting approach can make.
You can learn more and watch a video on how it works here: https://rise25.com/giftprogram
Contact us now at support@rise25.com or message us here: https://rise25.com/contact
Powered by Rise25 Podcast Production Company - https://rise25.com")
![[SaaS & Healthcare Series] Solving Healthcare’s Inventory Blind Spots With Michael Prokopis](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/v7TUhikXfCs/mqdefault.jpg "[SaaS & Healthcare Series] Solving Healthcare’s Inventory Blind Spots With Michael Prokopis
Michael Prokopis is the CEO of DARVIS, an AI-powered company transforming healthcare inventory management through real-time visibility and autonomous solutions. Under his leadership, DARVIS is helping health systems use AI and computer vision to improve inventory accuracy, reduce waste, and prevent stockouts. Prior to DARVIS, he held senior roles at institutions including MD Anderson Cancer Center and Steward Health Care. A former US Navy Surface Warfare Officer, Michael has managed $3.2B+ in spending and driven $360M+ in savings through operational transformation and efficiency programs.
In this episode… Healthcare supply chains operate under constant pressure, where missing inventory can delay care, increase costs, and create major operational headaches. Yet many hospitals still rely on outdated manual tracking systems that lack real-time visibility. How can AI help healthcare systems reduce waste, prevent shortages, and make smarter inventory decisions?
For Michael Prokopis, a healthcare supply chain and operations veteran, the answer lies in combining AI-powered computer vision with real-time inventory intelligence. He highlights how DARVIS uses camera-based AI systems to track thousands of medical products across large hospital systems, reduce manual labor, and prevent costly stockouts. This technology helps healthcare teams automate replenishment, improve forecasting, and respond faster during supply disruptions. He also explains how the system continuously learns and adapts to different healthcare environments, making implementation faster and more scalable. By improving visibility and accuracy, hospitals can operate more efficiently while giving supply chain leaders stronger data for decision-making.
In this episode of the Inspired Insider Podcast, host Dr. Jeremy Weisz sits down with Michael Prokopis, CEO of DARVIS, to discuss AI-driven healthcare inventory management. They explore how DARVIS uses computer vision for real-time inventory tracking, the challenges of selling technology to hospitals, and how AI reduces supply chain waste and shortages. Michael also shares lessons from his Navy and healthcare leadership experience.")
