Was Jesus An Animal Rights Activist? (with Kam Waters) (Ep.66) @WayneHsiung_

Wayne Hsiung Opposition to animal sacrifice was central to Jesus’s teachings. That’s the argument documentary maker Kam Waters makes in his provocative documentary Christspiracy. And he has incredible, fascinating evidence to support his thesis.

If you have Christian family, or if you’re simply curious about the true origins of Christianity and Christmas, this is the perfect documentary to watch this holiday season.
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Watch:
christspiracy.com
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Chapters:
Chapter 1) 00:00-10:15 Intro, Kameron Water: one of the directors of the documentary Christspriacy, Kameron on why religion matters, how the film Christspriacy developed, a vegan “identity,” & the religious identity

Chapter 2) 10:16-20:28 Wayne’s interest in spirituality, Kameron on his religion, on their companion animals, & on the death of animals

Chapter 3) 20:29-35:06 Kameron on religions, different connections with animals as food, finding new connections with animals not as food, & activism’s connection to faith

Chapter 4) 35:07-48:10 On Kameron’s family’s journey to not eating animals, Kameron’s journey to not eating animals, enriching religion and faith with ethical veganism, & on Seventh-Day Adventists

Chapter 5) 48:11-1:00:07 The source of not hurting animals in Chrispiracy, on John the Baptist, & on James’s spiritual leadership after Jesus

Chapter 6) 1:00:08-1:17:29 Tempered radicalism, why Jesus and animals have not been discussed before, on Costco and Whole Foods animal welfare lies, & understanding systems

Chapter 7) 1:17:30-1:32:36 Why Jesus and James cared about animals, wrong translations of the bible, & Jesus’s quoted scriptures of others about not killing animals

Chapter 8) 1:32:37-1:41:48 How animal rights activists can talk to Christians about animals, follow @ Christspiracy on all social media, & thank you to all activists that take direct action for the animals

Chapter 9) 1:41:49-1:42:05 Outro video - Thank you for watching! Please Subscribe. Acknowledgments to the Podcast Team: Joe Allman, Adam Durand, & Chloe Leffakis
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Was Jesus An Animal Rights Activist? (with Kam Waters) (Ep.66)

Wayne Hsiung 2024-12-24 | Opposition to animal sacrifice was central to Jesus’s teachings. That’s the argument documentary maker Kam Waters makes in his provocative documentary Christspiracy. And he has incredible, fascinating evidence to support his thesis.

If you have Christian family, or if you’re simply curious about the true origins of Christianity and Christmas, this is the perfect documentary to watch this holiday season.
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Watch:
christspiracy.com
Follow Christspiracy, links below.
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Chapters:
Chapter 1) 00:00-10:15 Intro, Kameron Water: one of the directors of the documentary Christspriacy, Kameron on why religion matters, how the film Christspriacy developed, a vegan “identity,” & the religious identity

Chapter 2) 10:16-20:28 Wayne’s interest in spirituality, Kameron on his religion, on their companion animals, & on the death of animals

Chapter 3) 20:29-35:06 Kameron on religions, different connections with animals as food, finding new connections with animals not as food, & activism’s connection to faith

Chapter 4) 35:07-48:10 On Kameron’s family’s journey to not eating animals, Kameron’s journey to not eating animals, enriching religion and faith with ethical veganism, & on Seventh-Day Adventists

Chapter 5) 48:11-1:00:07 The source of not hurting animals in Chrispiracy, on John the Baptist, & on James’s spiritual leadership after Jesus

Chapter 6) 1:00:08-1:17:29 Tempered radicalism, why Jesus and animals have not been discussed before, on Costco and Whole Foods animal welfare lies, & understanding systems

Chapter 7) 1:17:30-1:32:36 Why Jesus and James cared about animals, wrong translations of the bible, & Jesus’s quoted scriptures of others about not killing animals

Chapter 8) 1:32:37-1:41:48 How animal rights activists can talk to Christians about animals, follow @ Christspiracy on all social media, & thank you to all activists that take direct action for the animals

Chapter 9) 1:41:49-1:42:05 Outro video - Thank you for watching! Please Subscribe. Acknowledgments to the Podcast Team: Joe Allman, Adam Durand, & Chloe Leffakis
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youtube.com/@Kameron_Waters
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The license of Ridglan Farms vet was suspended yesterday. We are on the verge of a major victory.

Wayne Hsiung 2025-10-01 | Most people think animals, and especially dogs, are protected by law. Most people are wrong. It has taken years of creative effort to get the most trivial laws enforced against a powerful industry: animal experimentation. But now, with the license of Ridglan Farms' vet suspended yesterday, we are on the verge of a major victory.

And that could mean freedom, not just for thousands of dogs, but for all animals trapped in cages at labs.
#FreeTheDogs #Ridglan #RightToRescue
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That Crazy Animal Rights Lawsuit is About to Change the World (with PETAs Jeff Kerr) (Ep.84)

Wayne Hsiung 2025-08-01 | Jeff Kerr at PETA has brought some of the wildest legal cases in animal rights history: monkey selfies, orca slavery, and more. I chatted with him about why these “crazy” cases actually have solid legal grounds–and why Jeff has immense hope for the future of animal law and animal rights.
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“Right to listen” lawsuit:
peta.org/news/peta-sues-nih-nimh-in-groundbreaking-lawsuit
American Kennel Club lawsuit:
peta.org/media/news-releases/peta-files-suit-against-american-kennel-club-for-designing-promoting-and-profiting-off-deformed-dogs
Maine Lobster Festival lawsuit:
peta.org/media/news-releases/maine-lobster-festival-sued-by-peta-for-steaming-lobsters-alive
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About Jeff Kerr: As chief legal officer to PETA and other PETA entities for nearly 30 years, Jeff Kerr is the longest-tenured legal head of any animal protection organization. He built and leads the world’s largest legal team working for animal liberation, which was named Corporate Counsel magazine’s Best Legal Department in 2017—the first animal protection group and only the second nonprofit to receive that honor. Kerr is a graduate of the University of Virginia School of Law, which recognized his public service work with the prestigious Shaping Justice Award for Extraordinary Achievement, and George Mason University, where he was a Weber scholar. His high-profile cases have made headlines around the world and sparked a global conversation about the legal rights of animals.
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Chapters:
Intro) 00:00-07:35 Jeff Kerr on how to understand how the law works for animals, whistleblowers, & unnecessary testing on macaque monkeys
Chapter 2) 07:36-15:36 PETA’s controversial lawsuits
Chapter 3) 15:37-19:44 PETA as bipartisan, on the NIH, & the merits of PETA’s lawsuits
Chapter 4) 19:45-24:32 PETA on consumerism, new laws for animals, & enforcing existing laws for animals
Chapter 5) 24:33-35:24 The humanewashing problem, research on consumerism, & environmentalism
Chapter 6) 35:25-41:44 PETA’s focus of protests & different activist groups working together
Chapter 7) 41:45-49:35 An ambitious lawsuit: The Maine Lobster Festival
Chapter 8) 49:36-52:22 A historical view of the animal rights movement & PETA getting attention
Chapter 9) 52:23-59:10 Fast questions, advice on activist teams, and hope for the future
Chapter 10) 59:11-59:27 Outro video - Thank you for watching! Please Subscribe. Acknowledgments to the Podcast Team: Adam Durand, & Chloe Leffakis
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Books Mentioned:
Consider the Lobster by David Foster Wallace
Diet for a New America by John Robbins
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Loving v. Virginia:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loving_v._Virginia

The Case for Optimizing Everything with Joey Savoie (Ep.83)

Wayne Hsiung 2025-07-24 | Joey Savoie, the co-founder of Ambitious Impact, lives his life by spreadsheets, and it’s allowed him to create tremendous impact. Should we follow in his footsteps?
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Chapters:
Intro) 00:00-13:41 Why Joey likes optimization for important things in life & his response to push-backs
Chapter 2) 13:42-18:13 Joey on meditation and how it helps optimization
Chapter 3) 18:14-29:36 What is Ambitious Impact (AIM) and Charity Entrepreneurship & helping NGOs/Nonprofits to be more popular and efficient
Chapter 4) 29:37-45:12 Examples of leveraging status in a positive way
Chapter 5) 45:13-55:33 AIM and Charity Entrepreneurship - how it started and goals, on Joey’s parents and upbringing, & current moral/ethical development
Chapter 6) 55:34-1:11:33 Joey on ethics & social effects of relationships
Chapter 7) 1:11:34-1:19:26 How AIM and Charity Entrepreneurship helps with social support and what Joey as an individual has learned from it
Chapter 8) 1:19:27-1:31:12 Joey on Effective Altruism (EA), AIM looking for skepticism in humility and moral ambition, & groups measuring and reacting to different results
Chapter 9) 1:31:13-1:41:14 Joey on EA not able to reach goals & Joey on introspection leading to action or inaction
Chapter 10) 1:41:15-1:49:41 What has Joey learned about learning, why you should read books, & also learn from outside your community
Chapter 11) 1:49:42-1:50:58 Joey’s most important lesson from years of being an optimizer
Chapter 12) 1:50:59-1:52:39 Follow AIM (http://charityentrepreneurship.com) and Joey (measuredlife.substack.com/)! (other links below)
Chapter 13) 1:52:40-1:52:56 Outro video - Thank you for watching! Please Subscribe. Acknowledgments to the Podcast Team: Adam Durand & Chloe Leffakis
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Follow AIM and Joey:
charityentrepreneurship.com
ambitiousimpact.com
measuredlife.substack.com
substack.com/@goodenoughjoey
facebook.com/joey.savoie
facebook.com/charityentrepreneurship
instagram.com/ambitiousimpact
https://x.com/goodenoughjoey
https://x.com/charity_ep
youtube.com/@charityentrepreneurship6301
linkedin.com/in/joey-savoie-b5937356
linkedin.com/company/charityentrepreneurship

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Books Mentioned:
Moral Ambition by Rutger Bregman

The Growth Mindset: A Guide to Professional and Personal Growth (The Art of Growth) by Joshua Moore & Helen Glasgow
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Visiting a Climate Leader in Prison (Ep.82)

Wayne Hsiung 2025-05-13 | The UK climate movement achieved a historic win. Roger Hallam doesn’t give a f—.

Visit the blog to learn how to ask for Roger to be freed: blog.simpleheart.org/p/does-virtue-matter-more-than-impact

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This Might Get Me Canceled with George Martin / Carnism Debunked (Ep.81)

Wayne Hsiung 2025-04-29 | George Martin has some of the most controversial takes in animal rights, from George Floyd to Gaza. Should that get him canceled?

Find more of George Martin at youtube.com/@CarnismDebunked
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Chapters:
Intro) 00:00-13:49 BLM and intersectionality in activist movements
Chapter 2) 13:50-19:16 Systemic racism in policing
Chapter 3) 19:17-28:12 Police shootings of Justine Damond and Daniel Shaver
Chapter 4) 28:13-41:23 Derek Chauvin’s prison sentence & George Floyd’s cause of death
Chapter 5) 41:24-57:36 Intersectional infighting in activist movements, cancel culture, & bad intentions and actions of some “activists”
Chapter 6) 57:37-1:06:10 Left-wing and Right-wing principles, horseshoe theory, & extremists in different movements
Chapter 7) 1:06:11-1:23:14 Why and how to talk or not talk about intersectionality in the animal rights movement & mob mentality
Chapter 8) 1:23:15-1:34:31 Why George is not scared to speak about controversial topics & inclusion and exclusion in movements
Chapter 9) 1:34:32-1:44:52 Is intersectionality good for the movement & effective messaging
Chapter 10) 1:44:53-1:47:14 Final thoughts- We the Free, Carnism Debunked YouTube & Podcast
Chapter 11) 1:47:15-1:47:32 Outro video - Thank you for watching! Please Subscribe. Acknowledgments to the Podcast Team: Adam Durand & Chloe Leffakis
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The Greatest Turnaround in Animal Rights History (Ep.80)

Wayne Hsiung 2025-04-08 | The state tried to jail me for rescuing dogs. Now it’s helping us save them. But there’s so much more than 3000 dogs at stake.
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00:00 Intro
01:10 How does scalable change work?
04:26 Action-attention feedback loop
06:17 Momentum
08:12 The "Day 2" Question
09:02 Outro video - Thank you for watching! Please Subscribe. Acknowledgments to the Podcast Team: Joe Allman, Adam Durand, & Chloe Leffakis

Free Palestine Failed. Here’s How They Could Have Won. (Ep.79)

Wayne Hsiung 2025-04-04 | You can’t create change by threatening to kill people.
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Chapters:
Chapter 1) 00:00 Intro
Chapter 2) 01:50 The importance of nonviolence
Chapter 3) 03:38 Winning over adversaries
Chapter 4) 05:37 Pushing back against “Safetyism”
Chapter 5) 07:58 Conclusion
Chapter 6) 10:52 Outro video - Thank you for watching! Please Subscribe. Acknowledgments to the Podcast Team: Joe Allman, Adam Durand, & Chloe Leffakis

The Animal Cruelty Funding The MAGA Movement (Investigation and Rescue)

Wayne Hsiung 2025-04-01 | The Simple Heart on Substack - Subscribe to Wayne Hsiung's newsletter to learn more about the #RightToRescue at https://simpleheart.org!
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The Animal Cruelty Funding the MAGA Movement

Wayne Hsiung 2025-03-31 | Trump is funding unspeakable animal abuse. Follow the money, and you’ll understand why.
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Trump Fired The One Woman Who Can Stop Elon (Ep.78)

Wayne Hsiung 2025-02-05 | Elon has one weakness: animal cruelty. And the one woman who could expose it has just been fired.
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Register for the event “Animal Rescue in the Age of Trump - DC Summit” in March:
rescue.eventbrite.com/?aff=youtube
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Chapters:
Chapter 1) 00:00 Intro, Elon’s mission
Chapter 2) 00:45 What programs were cut
Chapter 3) 02:09 Selling these cuts to the public
Chapter 4) 03:53 Elon’s interests in deregulation
Chapter 5) 04:37 Neuralink
Chapter 6) 06:44 Phyllis Fong
Chapter 7) 08:36 A simple message to explain Elon’s actions
Chapter 8) 10:10 Closing thoughts
Chapter 9) 12:24 Outro video - Thank you for watching! Please Subscribe. Acknowledgments to the Podcast Team: Joe Allman, Adam Durand, & Chloe Leffakis

Why Animal Liberation Will Happen In One Generation (Ep.77)

Wayne Hsiung 2025-01-31 | People say animal rights won’t be achieved for centuries or even millennia. Here’s why they’re wrong.
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Register for the event “Animal Rescue in the Age of Trump - DC Summit” in March:
rescue.eventbrite.com/?aff=youtube
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Chapters:
Chapter 1) 00:00-2:49 Intro: Animal Liberation will happen in one generation, Peanut The Squirrel, & animal cruelty issues during the 2024 Presidential Election

Chapter 2) 2:50-5:38 Philosophical legitimacy of animal rights & the popular appeal of animal rights

Chapter 3) 5:39-7:24 Why there is not a political movement pushing animal rights: obstacle one - preference falsification

Chapter 4) 7:25-9:53 Why there is not a political movement pushing animal rights: obstacle two - lack of vision

Chapter 5) 9:54-16:43 How to reverse these two obstacles and find opportunities for change & let us know your thoughts on Animal Liberation in one generation

Chapter 6) 16:44-17:00 Outro video - Thank you for watching! Please Subscribe. Acknowledgments to the Podcast Team: Joe Allman, Adam Durand, & Chloe Leffakis
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What Vegans Can Learn From DeepSeek (Ep. 76)

Wayne Hsiung 2025-01-28 | A breakthrough Chinese AI shook the global economy. Vegans can do the same – if we learn from what made Deepseek great.
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rescue.eventbrite.com/?aff=youtube
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Chapters:
Chapter 1) 00:00-4:47 Intro: on the successful and new AI DeepSeek, factory farms, & the Animal Rights movement
Chapter 2) 4:48-12:46 How DeepSeek and the Animal Rights movement can be alike: Transparency
Chapter 3) 12:47-19:56 How Deepseek and the Animal Rights movement can be alike: Diversity
Chapter 4) 19:57-26:18 How DeepSeek and the Animal Rights movement can be alike: Purpose
Chapter 5) 26:19-27:50 Final thoughts: summary &
Chapter 6) 27:51-28:08 Outro video - Thank you for watching! Please Subscribe. Acknowledgments to the Podcast Team: Joe Allman, Adam Durand, & Chloe Leffakis
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Am I Ruining Veganism? (Ep.75)

Wayne Hsiung 2025-01-24 | Getting arrested for the animals isn’t a problem for the movement. It’s an opportunity.
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Register for the event in March “Animal Rescue in the Age of Trump - DC Summit”:
rescue.eventbrite.com/?aff=youtube
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Chapters:
Chapter 1) 00:00-5:59 Intro: veganism, animal rights, voluntary prosecution, & trials for social change in the past

Chapter 2) 6:00-7:59 Reason one: trials force society away from systemic inertia

Chapter 3) 8:00-9:15 Reason two: trials are not affected by regulatory capture (example money in politics)

Chapter 4) 9:16-19:42 Other social justice movements using voluntary prosecution & on women’s right activist Susan B. Anthony

Chapter 5) 19:43-25:33 On gay rights activist Dale Jennings

Chapter 6) 25:34-33:58 What do trials mean for animal rights and veganism, & how and when social change happens

Chapter 7) 33:59-35:43 Opportunities to participate in activism and the “Animal Rescue in the Age of Trump - DC Summit” in March, link above

Chapter 8) 35:44-36:00 Outro video - Thank you for watching! Please Subscribe. Acknowledgments to the Podcast Team: Joe Allman, Adam Durand, & Chloe Leffakis
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Links:
"Voluntary Prosecution and the Case of Animal Rescue" by Justin Marceau, Wayne Hsiung, and Steffen Seitz
harvardlawreview.org/forum/vol-137/voluntary-prosecution-and-the-case-of-animal-rescue
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How Vegans Are Winning in Trump Country (Ep.74)

Wayne Hsiung 2025-01-21 | There’s nothing like the threat of imprisonment to force you to learn.
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Chapters:
Chapter 1) 00:00-5:44 Intro: using persuasion to make the world a better place & how people disagree

Chapter 2) 5:45-10:39 On trust, how to persuade, & the Smithfield Trial win

Chapter 3) 10:40-20:29 Lesson 1: Go to the frontlines & Wayne’s first frontline experience

Chapter 4) 20:30-28:26 Lesson 2: Don’t cancel your enemies. Make friends with them.

Chapter 5) 28:27-31:56 Lesson 3: Boldness is a virtue, not a vice.

Chapter 6) 31:57-33:31 Summary & final thoughts

Chapter 7) 33:32-33:48 Outro video - Thank you for watching! Please Subscribe. Acknowledgments to the Podcast Team: Joe Allman, Adam Durand, & Chloe Leffakis
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Rick Pittman’s testimony at the Smithfield Trial:
https://x.com/mbolotnikova/status/1578806031102009349
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Is MAGA Coming For the Vegans? (Ep.73)

Wayne Hsiung 2025-01-17 | What Trump 2.0 could mean for animal rights. Surprisingly, it’s not all bad.
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Read on Substack:
blog.simpleheart.org/p/what-trump-20-could-mean-for-animal
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Chapters:
0:00-3:52 Who are the MAGA people in Trump’s incoming administration

3:53-5:10 The culture war around plant-based meats

5:11-6:42 Ending subsidies for animal cruelty

6:43-7:46 Targeting dissidents

7:47-8:55 An end to animal testing

8:56-9:30 Summary and final thoughts

9:31-9:47 Outro video - Thank you for watching! Please Subscribe. Acknowledgments to the Podcast Team: Joe Allman, Adam Durand, & Chloe Leffakis
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Cannibalism Just Pops Out!

Wayne Hsiung 2025-01-15 | Whole Foods’ cover-up of cannibalism in its egg suppliers is the subject of an appellate brief we filed last month.

We filed our opening brief in the appeal of my conviction for my role in the #MassOpenRescue of 37 dying hens from a Whole Foods egg farm in Sonoma County, California. We have a number of strong arguments – but the court’s error over cannibalism is perhaps the most disturbing. Whole Foods routinely describes its products as “humane" while failing to disclose that they are raising animals in crowded industrial sheds where they literally eat each other alive.

I had the right to present this evidence in court. That right was denied. But there is a bigger question: what does it say about our entire food system when even “humane” farms are filled with animals eating each other alive?
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How We Turned The Tables on Ridglan Farms (Ep.72)

Wayne Hsiung 2025-01-15 | Description
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Chapters:
Chapter 1) 00:00-3:30 Intro: the judge granted the petition to appoint a special prosecutor to investigate Ridglan Farms for criminal animal cruelty, & the first reason we won

Chapter 2) 3:31-6:56 The second reason we won

Chapter 3) 6:57-10:11 The third reason we won

Chapter 4) 10:12-13:31 Final thoughts: why, how, & who can achieve change for animals

Chapter 5) 13:32-13:47 Outro video - Thank you for watching! Please Subscribe. Acknowledgments to the Podcast Team: Joe Allman, Adam Durand, & Chloe Leffakis
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Can We Rescue 60,000 Tortured Dogs? (Episode 16)
youtu.be/z1t_J9hMuaw

Beagle Experiments Exposed In Court (Ep. 48)
youtu.be/SmX2yEq6I8g
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HUGE Court Ruling

Wayne Hsiung 2025-01-10 | This is HUGE. A court just appointed a special prosecutor to investigate the crimes of Ridglan Farms, one of the largest dog research and breeding facilities in the world.

For years, I begged the government to help the Ridglan dogs. But instead of investigating Ridglan, the government tried to throw me in jail after I took a blind puppy out of her cage and to the vet.

Now the tables have turned, with a court finding not only that animals are abused, but that the government has, de facto, been part of the cover-up.

This is just the first step. We’ll need your help. Click the link in the bio, if you want to join our meeting this weekend to discuss what’s next.

#Ridglan #FreeTheDogs #RightToRescue

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I Didn’t “Steal” Dogs. I Rescued Them. (with Jade Ara) (Ep.71)

Wayne Hsiung 2025-01-10 | People keep accusing me of stealing animals. I speak to Jade Ara of the Stop Yulin Podcast on why they’re wrong.
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Subscribe to Stop Yulin channel on YouTube:
youtube.com/@stopyulin8640

Also watch and like the original full episode on YouTube:
youtu.be/eRdnHSq597Y

Follow Jade:
facebook.com/jade.ara.12
instagram.com/jade_ara_stopyulin
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youtube.com/@jadex38
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To find out how you can help the dogs at Ridglan Farms, join the Open Rescue Advocates Meeting on January 12th at 4pmPT/7pmET in San Francisco or on online:
simpleheart.org/ora

Follow Wayne on YouTube:
youtube.com/@WayneHsiung_
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Chapters:
Chapter 1) 00:00-1:06 Wayne’s intro on joining the Stop Yulin Podcast

Chapter 2) 1:07-1:14 Stop Yulin intro (Also watch the original episode with the full intro and outro & subscribe, links above)

Chapter 3) 1:15-18:46 Introducing Wayne - his activism, family history, and childhood

Chapter 4) 18:47-33:40 When Wayne found out about the Yulin Dog Meat Festival, Wayne’s first dog named Vivian, & on learning why and how to do investigations and rescues

Chapter 5) 33:41-39:31 On getting involved in the Yulin campaign & on the 2016 investigation and dog rescue in Yulin

Chapter 6) 39:32-42:45 2017 interview of Julianne Perry on the 2016 investigation and rescue of her dog named Pao

Chapter 7) 42:46-51:43 (continued) on 2016 investigation & dog rescue in Yulin

Chapter 8) 51:44-1:00:38 Dog meat trade and farms in different countries, on rescuing Oliver and two other dogs, & on being caught at a dog meat slaughterhouse

Chapter 9) 1:00:39-1:10:28 How they got the dogs out of Yulin & on activist Marc Ching

Chapter 10) 1:10:29-1:23:34 The victory in South Korea, on the progress of social change & on infighting in the animal rights movement

Chapter 11) 1:23:35-1:36:05 On Direct Action Everywhere (DxE), on the law, & on why Wayne went to jail in 2023 for the animals

Chapter 12) 1:36:06-1:48:36 On the Ridglan Beagle Rescue Trial and the petition for a Special Prosecutor to investigate Ridglan Farms (please note: this episode was recorded before the petition was granted), on Wayne’s nonprofit The SimpleHeart Initiative, on stepping down as leader organizer of DxE, on the victories in the Smithfield and Foster Farms Trials, on strategy and goals of animal rights movement, & follow Wayne on Substack and YouTube, links above

Chapter 13) 1:48:37-1:49:01 Stop Yulin outro video - Subscribe to the channel, link above

Chapter 14) 1:49:02-1:49:18 Wayne’s outro video - Thank you for watching! Please Subscribe. Acknowledgments to the Podcast Team: Joe Allman, Adam Durand, & Chloe Leffakis
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Links:
“The Dog I Took a Beating For” by Wayne Hsiung
medium.com/direct-action-everywhere-dxe/the-dog-i-took-a-beating-for-e24fdbb3ed7f

The Albany Movement:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albany_Movement

The Birmingham Campaign:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birmingham_campaign

Letter from a Birmingham Jail:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letter_from_Birmingham_Jail
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The Single Most Important Lesson for 2025 (Ep. 70)

Wayne Hsiung 2025-01-07 | It’s very simple: have faith.
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Chapters:
Chapter 1) 00:00-5:36 Intro, on YouTube content and the newsletter on Substack, how to start 2025, & on being criminally changed in 2018 for open rescue

Chapter 2) 5:37-11:13 The first reason we should be hopeful & on using information and technology

Chapter 3) 11:14-14:40 The second reason we should be hopeful & building connections

Chapter 4) 14:41-20:08 The third reason we should be hopeful & faith in creating change for the animals

Chapter 5) 20:09-21:43 Final thoughts and thank you

Chapter 6) 21:44-22:00 Outro video - Thank you for watching! Please Subscribe. Acknowledgments to the Podcast Team: Joe Allman, Adam Durand, & Chloe Leffakis

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Books/Articles Mentioned:
“Republic.com” by Cass Sunstein (2001)

“A Political Movement for Animal Rights Is Coming” by Wayne Hsiung
November 22, 2024
currentaffairs.org/news/author/wayne-hsiung

“The Law of Social Entropy” by Wayne Hsiung
December 28, 2023
blog.simpleheart.org/p/the-law-of-social-entropy
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Why Angry Men Are Killing From NYC To New Orleans (w/ the Supreme One aka Jeremy Loeb) (Ep.69)

Wayne Hsiung 2025-01-03 | The real reason men are killing people across the nation.
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Follow @loebjeremy:
youtube.com/@loebjeremy

Watch our podcast with Kam Waters:
youtu.be/S3DXB8AvPMs
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Chapters:
Chapter 1) 00:00-6:20 Intro, post-election takes, & why are there so many angry men out there

Chapter 2) 6:21-16:44 The tragedy in New Orleans & comparing Democrats and Republicans

Chapter 3) 16:45-27:41 The loss of the public’s trust in the government, on the perpetrator in New Orleans, & how men are affected by society’s cultural norms

Chapter 4) 27:42-38:11 Disconnection and loneliness, if the government invested in helping people that need help, & on the unconditional love from dogs

Chapter 5) 38:12-54:54 Corrupted incentives, how people change, how systems function or fail, & on the documentary Christspiracy

Chapter 6) 54:55-1:03:39 On the film “The Joker” with spoilers, the isolation of individuals in society, on Jeremy his YouTube channel, & Wayne and his dogs

Chapter 7) 1:03:40-1:13:00 On having a connection with a person or a nonhuman animal, Wayne’s difficult time in school, & Jermey in military-type school

Chapter 8) 1:13:01-1:20:46 What some of these angry men have in common, North Carolina's military bases, factory farms, and slaughterhouses, on the “crimes” of helping animals, & on crimes that hurt animals

Chapter 9) 1:20:47-1:34:10 There’s a higher law and extremists perverting that with violence, on the public perception of Luigi Mangione, & how both domesticated and wild animals are vulnerable

Chapter 10) 1:34:11-1:38:41 On Wayne befriending a factory farm owner & on the Gaia Hypothesis (by James Lovelock)

Chapter 11) 1:38:42-1:46:24 Lessons we can learn from these angry men and how to stop this violence from happening again, subscribe to Jeremy’s Youtube channel (link above), & like and comment on Jeremy’s and Wayne’s YouTube channel

Chapter 12) 1:46:25-1:46:41 Outro video - Thank you for watching! Please Subscribe. Acknowledgments to the Podcast Team: Joe Allman, Adam Durand, & Chloe Leffakis
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Movies mentioned:
“Zone of Interest” (2023)
“Christspiracy” (2024)
“The Joker” (2019)
“Joker: Folie à Deux” (2024)
“Top Gun” (1986)
“The Smell of Money” (2022)
“What The Health” (2017)
“Jaws” (1975)
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Milk comes from THIS?

Wayne Hsiung 2024-12-31 | Raw, organic, lactose-free. What’s missing from all the debates about milk is… where it’s actually coming from. #Milk #GotMilk
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I “Stole” Turkeys From Him. Then He Saved Me. (Ep. 68)

Wayne Hsiung 2024-12-31 | On the virtues of making friends with your enemies.
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Watch “Operation Deathstar”:
youtu.be/wlSE1X-hSqQ

Watch Rick testifying at the Smithfield Rescue Trial
“One of the defense’s star witnesses, a turkey farmer who had one of his animals taken by activists, explains to the prosecutor why he supports what they do. He does an impressive job repelling her questions. #SmithfieldTrial” -Marina Bolotnikova
https://x.com/mbolotnikova/status/1578806031102009349/video/1
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Chapters:
Chapter 1) 00:00-4:59 Intro: a phone call because the FBI was at an animal sanctuary, investigating Circle Four Farms in 2017 (Operation Deathstar link above), & charges against rescuers

Chapter 2) 5:00-8:54 Learning after being criminally charged, on the Smithfield Rescue Trial in Utah, & on Norbest Turkey rescue charges

Chapter 3) 8:55-21:05 Meeting and befriending Rick Pitman, why people do what they do, & on FOIA requests and animal welfare at the slaughterhouse

Chapter 4) 21:06-28:32 Sharing criticisms, sharing personal things in common, & Rick testifying at the Smithfield Rescue Trial in Utah (video link above)

Chapter 5) 28:33-33:30 Important lessons learned, let us know what lessons that you learned, & thank you all for the support!

Chapter 6) 33:31-33:46 Outro video - Thank you for watching! Please Subscribe. Acknowledgments to the Podcast Team: Joe Allman, Adam Durand, & Chloe Leffakis
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The USDA is suppressing a vaccine that could be crucial to stopping the next pandemic.

Wayne Hsiung 2024-12-28 | The USDA is suppressing a vaccine that could be crucial to stopping the next pandemic. (H/t Lewis Bollard at the Open Philanthropy Project) #BirdFlu #Vaccines
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Debating Sexual Misconduct, “Extremism,” & Purity Politics in Animal Rights (w/Vegan Gains) (Ep.67)

Wayne Hsiung 2024-12-27 | I confront @VeganGains on his “problematic” views. It goes ok. Sort of.
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Follow Vegan Gains:
patreon.com/vegangains
instagram.com/vegangains.real
youtube.com/@VeganGains
facebook.com/VeganGainsOfficial
twitter.com/VeganGains
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Chapters:
Chapter 1) 00:00-11:29 Intro, Youtuber Vegan Gains: Richard Burgess, controversial views on sexual harassment/abuse & the #MeToo movement in activist movements, & specific cases

Chapter 2) 11:30-30:34 Having a broad conversation sexual harassment/abuse & the #MeToo movement, & trying to not talk about specific cases

Chapter 3) 30:35-35:15 Extreme positions in activist movements

Chapter 4) 35:16-46:59 On the Israel/Palestine war

Chapter 5) 47:00-1:02:06 Wayne on his awkward laughter, reacting to inappropriate behavior, on power dynamics, calm assessments of evidence compared to extreme conclusions of evidence, & Richard’s interpretation of the evidence

Chapter 6) 1:02:07-1:13:43 On restorative justice, on having thoughtful conversations, where views originate

Chapter 7) 1:13:44-1:24:43 Wayne on why Richard is so interesting, & on why people react they way they do: concerns, bias, &/or conformity

Chapter 8) 1:24:44-1:37:39 On the public disruption of Wayne and Peter Singer, Richard’s controversial opinions on the way people react or don’t want to debate, & on having hard conversations

Chapter 9) 1:37:40-1:46:56 Can people have agreements after having conversations, on the empathy of human and nonhumans, & tendencies of human culture

Chapter 10) 1:46:57-1:49:58 Richard’s final thoughts, on meditation, & Gummy the cat and Oliver the dog

Chapter 11) 1:49:59-1:50:15 Outro video - Thank you for watching! Please Subscribe. Acknowledgments to the Podcast Team: Joe Allman, Adam Durand, & Chloe Leffakis
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Books Mentioned:
“Humanity: A Moral History of the Twentieth Century” by John Glover
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Glover
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We Saved Her Baby

Wayne Hsiung 2024-12-23 | Many of us are horrified over the holidays as our families serve a ham or roast. We know where this “meat” comes from, and it’s far from humane. Why don’t our families just “get it”?

The reality is that people are moved, not by facts and reasons, but stories and emotions. And this is why stories like Lauri’s are so important. She was a baby pig, trapped in a crate and sick with a lethal infection. Her mom was stuck behind bars, just inches away from her, and unable to help. She was destined to die.

But Lauri was saved. We rushed her to an emergency vet, which diagnosed pneumonia and a staph infection. Years later, she is a happy pig, playing at a sanctuary.

It took extraordinary effort by our team to give her that life. The reality is that, so long as millions of Americans support the abuses of animal agriculture, families like Lauri’s will be broken. Mothers will be forced to watch as their babies slowly die. Nothing could be so cruel to do to a family on the holidays.

That has to change. If your families are celebrating over a holiday ham, share with them Lauri’s story – and ask them to join you in making a meal that everyone (including the animals) can truly celebrate.
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The Cover-up of Mass Reindeer Slaughter on Christmas (with Rich Hardy) (Ep. 65)

Wayne Hsiung 2024-12-20 | The bizarre story of the mass reindeer slaughter at Christmas – and what we can do to stop it.
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Follow Rich:
instagram.com/notasnatureintended
richcampaigns.myportfolio.com
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Chapters:
Chapter 1) 00:00-11:26 Intro, Rich Hardy: author of “Not as Nature Intended” & on the hidden reindeer slaughter business

Chapter 2) 11:27-19:49 Who buys reindeer as meat, bunnies in the fur industry, & exceptions in the laws

Chapter 3) 19:50-28:44 How Rich learned about the hidden reindeer slaughter business, the public reaction to growing transparency of animal agricultural industries and cognitive dissonance, & how Rich became an investigator

Chapter 4) 28:45-45:37 Why Rich became an investigator, on investigations and mental health, & advice on balancing activism and mental health

Chapter 5) 45:38-56:09 Looking at the big picture in activism and life, Rich on veganic farming, & animal agriculture contaminating vegetable agriculture

Chapter 6) 56:10-1:03:04 How social justice movements change society & feelings and communication of humans and animals

Chapter 7) 1:03:05-1:13:35 Rich on learning about people during investigations & Big Ag corporations lying about animal agriculture

Chapter 8) 1:13:36-1:27:13 Rich’s other investigative work, on rabbit and quail factory farms, & on communicating (and dishonesty) with people

Chapter 9) 1:27:14-1:39:26 Workers caught in the systems, on antibiotics used in the animal agriculture industries, & laws for animals that are not enforced

Chapter 10) 1:39:27-1:45:01 Is there accountability in democracy and government, Rich’s advice on how to become an activist and investigator, & follow Rich in Instagram, link above.
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Books Mentioned:
“Not as Nature Intended” by Rich Hardy
waterstones.com/book/not-as-nature-intended/rich-hardy/9781789650631

The Harry Potter series
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Joe complains about “F up” Disney cartoons that trick people into having compassion for animals.

Wayne Hsiung 2024-12-19 | The Simple Heart on Substack - Subscribe to Wayne Hsiung's newsletter to learn more about the #RightToRescue at https://simpleheart.org!

Judge Forgot to Have my Trial

Wayne Hsiung 2024-12-17 | Today, we’re in court to appeal Big Ag’s efforts to bankrupt me after I rescued two dying birds from a Whole Foods factory farm.

Over the last few years, Whole Foods and its suppliers have sued me, smeared me, and had me thrown in jail. Today, we appeal one of the most absurd results: a judge’s issuance of a $300,000 judgment against me… after forgetting to have a trial. #RightToRescue
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The Real Story Behind Whole Foods’ Efforts to Jail Me (Ep. 64)

Wayne Hsiung 2024-12-17 | Today, we are in court arguing against Whole Foods’ effort to bankrupt me after I exposed their lies about “humane” farms. Here’s the behind the scenes story as to how I ended up in court. #WholeFoods
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Chapter 1) 0:00-15:49 Intro: Wayne explains the Diestel court case and thoughts on the Whole Foods livestream.
Chapter 2) 15:50-46:59 Livestream: “Wayne gets Arrested for Asking a Question.” from April 4th 2018
Chapter 3) 47:00-47:15 Outro video - Thank you for watching! Please Subscribe. Acknowledgments to the Podcast Team: Joe Allman, Adam Durand, & Chloe Leffakis

Dog Was Trapped!

Wayne Hsiung 2024-12-14 | The government’s dramatic rescue of a Chihuahua in Houston was widely praised. But when I tried to rescue a blind beagle trapped in a lab, not only did the government refuse to help, it tried to put me in prison. What’s the difference?

#RightToRescue #Chihuahua #Beagle
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Ask Whole Foods a question. Go to jail.

Wayne Hsiung 2024-12-13 | Ask Whole Foods a question. Go to jail.

I asked Whole Foods where their “humanely-raised” turkey was coming from. And instead of answering the question, they falsely accused me of “threatening bodily injury” and tried to have me jailed. The reason, quite simply, is that the company lies. I have been inside their farms, and the conditions are far from humane.

But over the last few years, the company and its industry allies have sued me, threatened me, and placed me in jail. Now they are trying to bankrupt me, by seeking hundreds of thousands of dollars for rescuing two sick turkeys from one of their farms. And bizarrely, a California judge ruled against me to the tune of nearly $300,000… after forgetting that we did not have a trial. Not a joke.

On December 17, we will be appealing in court to appeal this judgment. Check the link simpleheart.org/diestelcourt to find out how you can stay involved as we argue for my constitutional right to a trial – and to ask questions of the most powerful corporations in the world. #RightToRescue
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What To Do If You Hate CEOs (with Nathan Robinson) (Ep.63)

Wayne Hsiung 2024-12-13 | Nathan and I discuss the deep-seated human desire for retribution – and how to harness it for change.
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Follow Nathan:
https://x.com/NathanJRobinson

Follow Current Affairs:
currentaffairs.org
patreon.com/currentaffairs

More links below.
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Chapters:
Chapter 1) 00:00-10:18 Intro, Nathan Robinson of Current Affairs, on those that profit from healthcare, & how to handle injustices of healthcare

Chapter 2) 10:19-19:47 On suspected shooter Luigi Mangione, media coverage not talking about the underlying problems with the healthcare system, & why some try to justify the unjustifiable violence they choose to do

Chapter 3) 19:48-27:37 Moral justice in social justice movements, on Bernie Sanders, & on Socialism

Chapter 4) 27:38-38:59 Incremental change compared to immediate change in activism, Nathan’s personal and political journey, & on the Iraq War

Chapter 5) 39:00-48:31 Emotional effect of seeing footage of suffering, the positive vision of social justice movements, on Socialism and animal rights, & on moral philosophers and animal rights

Chapter 6) 48:32-58:33 The normalization of ignoring animal rights, how to undo the normalization of ignoring animal rights, & the rapid changes of social justice movements

Chapter 7) 58:34-1:01:41 How to respond to injustices of the system and institutions & follow Current Affairs & Nathan (links above & below)

Chapter 8) 1:01:42-1:01:58 Outro video - Thank you for watching! Please Subscribe. Acknowledgments to the Podcast Team: Joe Allman, Adam Durand, & Chloe Leffakis
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Books/Articles Mentioned:
“The Myth of American Idealism” by Nathan J. Robinson and Noam Chomsky
currentaffairs.org/news/why-you-should-read-the-myth-of-american-idealism

PNAS: “The global biomass of wild mammals”
pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2204892120

“Wild mammals make up only a few percent of the world’s mammals” by Hannah Ritchie
ourworldindata.org/wild-mammals-birds-biomass

“A Political Movement for Animal Rights Is Coming” by Wayne Hsiung
currentaffairs.org/news/a-political-movement-for-animal-rights-is-coming

“'It's A Cookbook': Animal Welfare Cascades” by Cass Sunstein
papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3866727

“The Strength of Weak Ties” by Mark Granovetter
jstor.org/stable/2776392
PDF link:
https://snap.stanford.edu/class/cs224w-readings/granovetter73weakties.pdf
“50 years on, Mark Granovetter’s ‘The Strength of Weak Ties’ is stronger than ever” by Melissa De Witte
https://news.stanford.edu/stories/2023/07/strength-weak-ties

“Threshold Models of Collective Behavior” by Mark Granovetter
https://sociology.stanford.edu/publications/threshold-models-collective-behavior
PDF link:
https://www2.cs.siu.edu/~hexmoor/classes/CS539-F10/Collective-Behavior.pdf

“Why You Should Be a Socialist” by Nathan J. Robinson
currentaffairs.org/news/2019/12/why-you-should-buy-why-you-should-be-a-socialist
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Follow Nathan:
nathanjrobinson.com
instagram.com/nathan___robinson
facebook.com/njrobinson
linkedin.com/in/nathan-robinson-751b211a

Follow Current Affairs:
https://www.linktr.ee/CurrentAffairs
currentaffairs.substack.com
https://x.com/CurAffairs
threads.net/@currentaffairsmag
tiktok.com/@current.affairs.mag
instagram.com/currentaffairsmag
linkedin.com/company/current-affairs-mag
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Sued for Rescuing Suffocating Birds from Whole Foods!

Wayne Hsiung 2024-12-12 | I rescued baby birds who were suffocating to death at the highest rated Whole Foods turkey farm. The company sued me for “stealing” - and the court awarded them hundreds of thousands of dollars after denying me the right to a trial.

On December 17, we’re arguing the appeal. At stake is not just the judgment against me but the question of whether American citizens can be denied their most basic constitutional rights.

Join the argument in person in San Francisco - simpleheart.org/diestelcourt – or show support for Wayne by taking the #WholeFoodsChallenge: go to your local Whole Foods and ask if the meat comes from “humane” farms, while pointing to evidence of cruelty. Record and post the company’s response!
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The $582,000 Whole Foods Chickens

Wayne Hsiung 2024-12-10 | This Whole Foods farm charged me $582,000 after I rescued a few dying chickens. #Inflation #WholeFoods #OpenRescue
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What To Do If You Find Out Fauci is Torturing Beagles (with Justin Goodman) (Ep.62)

Wayne Hsiung 2024-12-10 | Justin Goodman, a Senior Vice President at @WhiteCoatWaste was tarred as a racist and mocked as a conspiracy theorist for questioning Anthony Fauci’s experiments on animals at the height of the COVID-19 pandemic, including so-called “gain of function” at a Wuhan virus lab. But four years later, the dust has settled, and he won. We talk about how it happened, and what the Fauci beagle story says about science, government, and the future of animal rights.
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Follow White Coat Waste Project:
whitecoatwaste.org
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Follow Justin:
https://x.com/JustinRGoodman
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Chapters:
Chapter 1) 00:00-8:11 Intro: Justin Goodman of White Coat Waste Project (WCW Project), animals experiments under any political administration, & can DOGE (Department Of Government Efficiency) can save animals during the incoming Trump administration

Chapter 2) 8:12-22:08 On Fauci, on ending chimpanzee experiments, beagles experiments, and kitten experiments, how experiments on animals get funded by the government, & on Dr. Livingstone animal experiments

Chapter 3) 22:09-35:14 On why scientists and vivisectors overlook ethical concerns of experimenting on animals, how to stop funding unnecessary government research on animals, & John Gluck on Harry Harlow

Chapter 4) 35:15-40:42 How government funding experiments on animals started and continues

Chapter 5) 40:43-50:27 WCW Project investigating animal experiments and “respiratory illness” (Covid-19) in 2019 and Fauci, & zoonotic diseases from animal testing lab leaks and factory farm animals but not from wet markets

Chapter 6) 50:28-1:01:04 Public criticism toward Justin and WCW Project for saying animal testing lab leaks started Covid-19, & how Fauci lied that Covid-19 was not from animal testing lab leaks because he did not want government funding animal experiments to end

Chapter 7) 1:01:05-1:11:09 The trust and mistrust in government institutions especially during the pandemic, exposing Fauci and government officials lying about funding animal testing labs that caused Covid-19, & “the banality of evil” in animal research

Chapter 8) 1:11:10-1:28:30 WCW Project investigations (in 2021) exposing Fauci/NIH beagle testing, bipartisan and public criticism of Fauci/NIH, The Washington Post coverage lying WCW Project evidence of Fauci/NIH funding beagle testing, WCW Project FOIA requests for Fauci/NIH funding beagle testing, & The Washington Post published a weak retraction article that WCW Project evidence of Fauci/NIH lying but they did not correct prior false coverage

Chapter 9) 1:28:31-1:37:32 Justin’s communication with The Washington Post journalists, on mainstream media coverage, fear among activists in the animal rights movement, & on the Ridglan Farms Beagle case

Chapter 10) 1:37:33-1:43:34 Recent change in cultural and political perception of animal testing & on the closing of Envigo dog breed

Chapter 11) 1:43:35-1:54:17 What is the future for farmed animals compared to lab animals in the animal right movement, single-issue campaigns, & building relationships

Chapter 12) 1:54:18-1:57:47 Justin’s most important lessons for animal rights activists, & follow White Coat Waste Project and Justin on social media (links above)

Chapter 13) 1:57:48-1:58:03 Outro video - Thank you for watching! Please Subscribe. Acknowledgments to the Podcast Team: Joe Allman, Adam Durand, & Chloe Leffakis
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Articles/Books mentioned:
Newsweek “DOGE Can Save Dogs—and Tax Dollars | Opinion” by Rep. Greg Steube & Justin Goodman (United States Congressman from Florida; senior vice president at the government watchdog White Coat Waste Project)
newsweek.com/doge-can-save-dogs-tax-dollars-opinion-1992671

"Documents Link Potential Covid Patient Zero to U.S.-Funded Research in Wuhan" by Ryan Grim
theintercept.com/2023/06/17/covid-origin-wuhan-patient-zero

The Trial by Franz Kafka
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trial
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blog.whitecoatwaste.org
youtube.com/@WhiteCoatWaste
instagram.com/whitecoatwaste
linkedin.com/company/white-coat-waste-project
https://x.com/WhiteCoatWaste
facebook.com/whitecoatwaste
tiktok.com/@whitecoatwaste
threads.net/@whitecoatwaste
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Other links:
DOGE (Department Of Government Efficiency)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Department_of_Government_Efficiency
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Rats can drive cars, just like us. And they love it, too!

Wayne Hsiung 2024-12-08 | Rats can drive cars, just like us. And they love it, too!
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Bill Gates Wants to Burn Cows?

Wayne Hsiung 2024-12-06 | Bill Gates wants to light cows on fire to save the planet. Seriously. #ClimateChange #Cows
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How “Relational Dysfunction” Is Ruining Everything (with Dr. Melanie Joy) (Ep.61)

Wayne Hsiung 2024-12-06 | Melanie Joy is a Harvard-educated psychologist who focuses on how individual mental patterns can cause (or block) social transformation. And she has focused much of her work recently on so-called “relational dysfunction” and “dysregulation” are undermining, not just social movements, but all of human society. We talk about what dysfunction and dysregulation in relationships looks like, and how to overcome it, in this conversation.
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Beyond Carnism’s website:
carnism.org
Learn more about Melanie’s award-winning book, “Why We Love Dogs, Eat Pigs, and Wear Cows” and download the first chapter for free:
carnism.org/books
End Infighting website:
infighting.org
Learn more about Melanie’s book, “How to End Injustice Everywhere”:
infighting.org/how-to-end-injustice-everywhere

Beyond Carnism’s social media links:
instagram.com/beyondcarnism
facebook.com/beyondcarnism
https://bsky.app/profile/beyondcarnism.bsky.social
youtube.com/@BeyondCarnism

Melanie Joy’s social media links:
instagram.com/drmelaniejoy
facebook.com/melaniejoyphd
https://bsky.app/profile/drmelaniejoy.bsky.social
linkedin.com/in/drmelaniejoy
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Chapters:
Chapter 1) 00:00-14:09 Intro, what is relational literacy (integrity, communication, and connection), social media, & responding to people that act morally superior to others

Chapter 2) 14:10-27:01 How to not call out individuals for bad behavior & on publicly shaming institutions

Chapter 3) 27:02-42:59 On anger vs contempt, on shame vs guilt, & how to use your anger in a productive way

Chapter 4) 43:00-53:09 On mindfulness and meditation & on social media and capitalism

Chapter 5) 53:10-1:04:04 About building relational literacy & are there limits of relational literacy

Chapter 6) 1:04:05-1:08:43 Why Melanie started working on relational literacy and activist infighting, use Beyond Carnism resources, & follow Beyond Carnism and Melanie (links above)

Chapter 7) 1:08:44-1:09:00 Outro video - Thank you for watching! Please Subscribe. Acknowledgments to the Podcast Team: Joe Allman, Adam Durand, & Chloe Leffakis
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Books/Articles Mentioned:
“No Bad Parts: Healing Trauma and Restoring Wholeness with the Internal Family Systems Model”
by Richard C. Schwartz (2021)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_C._Schwartz

“Getting Relationships Right: How to Build Resilience and Thrive in Life, Love, and Work”
by Melanie Joy
carnism.org/book/getting-relationships-right

“The Sociopaths Among Us—And How to Avoid Them: You’re bound to come across the ‘Dark Triad’ type of malignant narcissists in life—and they can be superficially appealing. Better to look for their exact opposite.” by Arthur C. Brooks
theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/10/dark-triads-toxic-personalities/675683
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Movies mentioned:
“Blackfish” (2013, Documentary)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackfish_(film)

“Inside Out” (2015)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inside_Out_(2015_film)

“Inside Out 2” (2024)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inside_Out_2
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Apps mentioned:
“Waking Up: Meditation & Wisdom”
(This app is available only on the App Store for iPhone, iPad, and Apple Watch.)
apps.apple.com/us/app/waking-up-meditation-wisdom/id1307736395

“Waking Up: Beyond Meditation”
apps.apple.com/ni/app/waking-up-beyond-meditation/id1307736395
play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.wakingup.android&hl=en_US&pli=1
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Other links:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adyashanti
adyashanti.opengatesangha.org
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Shukman
henryshukman.com
lochkelly.org
veganadvocacy.org
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1 Million Starving Animals

Wayne Hsiung 2024-12-05 | This factory farm took $45 million in taxpayer funds then left a million animals to starve to death.
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She Could Be Saved

Wayne Hsiung 2024-12-04 | In my closing argument, I explained that the rule of law protects all of us - even a poor mother dog trapped and limping in a cage at Ridglan Farms.

At any moment, we could hear about the fate of the 3000 pups, many of whom are subject to horrifying experiments and surgical mutilation. They have lived their entire lives in darkness; soon, with your support, they may be brought to the light.

#ProtectTheDogs #RidglanTrial
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No Pardon from Walz

Wayne Hsiung 2024-12-03 | Tim Walz was supposed to pardon Tom the turkey. He slaughtered him instead. #Thanksgiving #Turkey #Turkeys #TimWalz
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Horror, Slavery, and the Path to Animal Rights (with @andrewrakich) (Ep.60)

Wayne Hsiung 2024-12-03 | What do horror movies, antebellum slavery, and cannibalism have in common? They all connect to the economic conditions required for political transformation — including the struggle for animal rights.

This conversation with YouTuber @AndrewRachik (@AtunSheiFilms) dives deeply into what we can learn from atrocities (both fictional and real) on how to create change.
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Why Ravenous is the Greatest Movie Ever Made:
youtu.be/oeUrwVXGL-4
Overanalyzing Ravenous:
youtu.be/roRD4F9pg5s
(Other links below.)
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Chapters:
Chapter 1) 00:00-9:12 Intro: history, traditions, religions/spirituality, horror movies, and the connections to animals rights

Chapter 2) 9:13-22:13 Cannibalism, YouTube monetization, & factory farms, society’s values and taboos towards speciesism, beagles at Ridglan Farms

Chapter 3) 22:14-35:36 Activists targeted for telling the truth, right-wing populism is rising due to unresolved political issues, & how the world will change

Chapter 4) 35:37-47:44 On dog food, ethical considerations, & how movements succeed: social vs economic

Chapter 5) 47:45-1:01:24 Who is abolitionist Benjamin Lay & how injustices intersect

Chapter 6) 1:01:25-1:14:30 Learning from abolitionist Benjamin Lay & economic changes in society

Chapter 7) 1:14:31-1:25:49 Social and narrative changes in society & identity politics

Chapter 8) 1:25:50-1:33:42 Abolitionist Benjamin Lay’s cave, connection to Benjamin Franklin, and daily vegan/animal rights activism

Chapter 9) 1:33:43-1:45:32 Environmentalists and vegans, how to achieve systemic change, & the Denver ballot initiative

Chapter 10) 1:44:33-1:51:13 How Andrew became a self-taught “historian” on YouTube & follow Andrew and Atun-Shei Films on social media (links below)

Chapter 11) 1:51:14-1:51:29 Outro video - Thank you for watching! Please Subscribe. Acknowledgments to the Podcast Team: Joe Allman, Adam Durand, & Chloe Leffakis
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Follow Atun-Shei Films:
youtube.com/@AtunSheiFilms
patreon.com/atunsheifilms
teespring.com/stores/atun-shei-films
atunsheifilms.com
twitter.com/atun_shei
vimeo.com/atunsheifilms
instagram.com/atunsheifilms
facebook.com/atunsheifilm

Watch The Sudbury Devil
atunsheifilms.vhx.tv
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Follow Andrew:
youtube.com/@andrewrakich
facebook.com/the.name.on.the.grave.is.arch.stanton
https://x.com/atun_shei
instagram.com/andrew.rakich
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Books Mentioned:
“Night” by Elie Wiesel
“What's the Matter with Kansas?” by Thomas Frank
“All Slave-Keepers That Keep the Innocent in Bondage, Apostates” by Benjamin Lay
“A Way to Health, Long Life, and Happiness (1691 Edition)” by Thomas Tryon
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Movies mentioned:
“Ravenous” (1999 - R - Horror/Western - 1h 41m)
“The Texas Chain Saw Massacre” (1974 - R - Horror/Crime - 1h 23m)
“Babe” (1995 - G - Family/Comedy - 1h 31m)
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Other links:
Benjamin Lay
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Lay
“He Was an Anti-Racist Vegan Radical... in 1738”
youtube.com/watch?v=gIkQrr8pgSI
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This Pig Farmer Defends Cannibalism. I’m Trying To Make Him My Friend. (with Trent Loos) (Ep.59)

Wayne Hsiung 2024-11-29 | Trent Loos and I met on the day that I organized a rescue that sent me to jail. And Trent was part of the charge pushing the government to put me in prison. So why am I talking to him during the holiday season about things on which we agree?
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Trent on XTwitter:
https://x.com/trentloos
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Chapters:
Chapter 1) 00:00-9:51 Intro, happy to have another conversation, nonhuman animals: property or not property, on Measure J in Sonoma County, companies lying to the public, factory farming, on appealing the Sunrise Farms case (in Sonoma County),

Chapter 2) 9:52-20:56 Why cannibalism happens on farms compared to the wild, mortality rates on factory farms, & animals in the wild

Chapter 3) 20:57-34:25 Animals in cages, employees on factory farms, companies not adhering to animal welfare standards, on Smithfield Foods, ending subsidies to factory farms, & the general welfare of the public

Chapter 4) 34:26-46:51 On political parties, corporate welfare compared to public welfare, subsidizing factory farms that kill animals, on the USDA, on the Farm Bureau, & the ASPCA and the Humane Society

Chapter 5) 46:52-51:48 On the “Right to Repair,” John Deere, and the Farm Bureau, on monopolies of other systems that only help corporations, on the incoming Presidential administration,

Chapter 6) 51:49-57:43 What is the solution to the problems, the lack of trust in institutions, on working together, & how to resist the large concentrations of power

Chapter 7) 57:44-57:58 Outro video - Thank you for watching! Please Subscribe. Acknowledgments to the Podcast Team: Joe Allman, Adam Durand, & Chloe Leffakis
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The dark truth about the President’s turkey pardoning

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Paige’s Rescue Story

Wayne Hsiung 2024-11-27 | What does a blind turkey have for Thanksgiving? Freedom.

#AnimalRescue #Thanksgiving #Turkey
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This Whole Foods Turkey Farm was awarded $300,000+ after suing me for exposing their sham farm.

Wayne Hsiung 2024-11-27 | This Whole Foods Turkey Farm was awarded $300,000+ after suing me for exposing their sham farm.

There was just one problem: the judge forgot to give me a trial.

#AnimalRescue #Thanksgiving #Turkey
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“Stylish but Illegal”

Wayne Hsiung 2024-11-26 | This “stylish but illegal” monkey was running wild in this Toronto IKEA. Remarkably, a Canadian court ruled that, as a result of his escape, he was no longer his former owner’s property.

But do we have the right to put ANY animal in a cage? #IKEAMonkey
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James Aspey Confronts Me on Steroids, the Liberation Pledge, & Veganster Rap (Ep.58)

Wayne Hsiung 2024-11-26 | James Aspey and I talk about how he gained nearly 50 pounds of muscle while eating mostly Pad Thai, and the merits of taking the Liberation Pledge at Thanksgiving.
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Follow James:
youtube.com/@James_Aspey
instagram.com/jimmycashpey
facebook.com/profile.php?id=706979461
facebook.com/profile.php?id=61550037632451
twitter.com/jamesaspey_
jimmycashpey@proton.me
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Chapters:
Chapter 1) 00:00-16:46 Intro, James Aspey to Jimmy Cashpey, on the Liberation Pledge, on vegan fitness/health influencers, & on safely using steroids and exercising with health issues

Chapter 2) 16:47-28:44 On misinformation about soy, Wayne and former Whole Foods CEO John Mackey, & more on safely using steroids and exercising with health issues

Chapter 3) 28:45-40:20 Steroids & testosterone replacement therapy, Wayne’s immune system, James and pain management, & Wayne and football teammates exercising as a teen

Chapter 4) 40:21-46:04 “Natural food” compared to “processed food” and a plant-based diet

Chapter 5) 46:05-1:06:04 More on the Liberation Pledge, briefly meet James’s cat named JC (black cat), on the book “Animal Liberation” and Peter Singer, the three parts of the Liberation Pledge, & talking with family

Chapter 6) 1:06:05-1:17:24 James’s idea: annual Liberation Pledge Day, the power of speaking up that each vegan has to affect change, Wayne at his mom’s funeral, & James confronts Wayne

Chapter 7) 1:17:25-1:24:40 On vegan meat, on lab meat, a restaurant served James chicken instead of vegan chicken, different ways people take the Liberation Pledge, & benefits of the Liberation Pledge

Chapter 8) 1:24:41-1:31:24 Argument for everyone taking the Liberation Pledge, on Gary Yourofsky, on James’s album with 30 songs, & briefly meet James’s cat named Dexter (tabby cat)

Chapter 9) 1:31:25-1:37:11 James’s recently released rap about COP29 on Instagram (link below) & follow James on Instagram (@jimmycashpey), YouTube, and Facebook (links above)

Chapter 10) 1:37:12-1:37:16 Outro video - Thank you for watching! Please Subscribe. Acknowledgments to the Podcast Team: Joe Allman, Adam Durand, & Chloe Leffakis
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Books Mentioned:
“Animal Liberation” by Peter Singer
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Links:
Conversation from 2017
Eat At Tables Where Animals Are Served? (w/ Wayne Hsuing, DxE)
youtube.com/watch?v=57DX5UelIWU

Previous podcasts
youtu.be/w4HyZdxC8go
youtu.be/1stmGzdgutw

Liberation Pledge
liberationpledge.com

“Peter Singer Wants to Shatter Your Moral Complacency”
nytimes.com/2024/11/02/magazine/peter-singer-interview.html

IG @ jimmycashpey - COP29 Rap Reaction video
instagram.com/p/DCdAbiQsF0J
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