Uploaded October 2020 | Updated September 2026, 3 weeks ago

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My guest in this episode is brand strategist and design systems expert Allati El Henson who is currently Lead Brand Designer at Cloudflare. Allati recounts her experience growing up in the hood in East Oakland, the importance of education, discovering design as a profession, technical precision in design systems and the value of having a big store of confidence.  And why designers need to treat design like it can change the world.

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