S2 Ep24: Thejus Chakravarthy – Make Work Suck Less @apolaine
S2 Ep24: Thejus Chakravarthy – Make Work Suck Less  @apolaine
Uploaded October 2023 | Updated September 2026, 3 weeks ago
Power of Ten is a podcast hosted by Andy Polaine about design operating at many levels, zooming out from thoughtful detail through to organisational transformation and on to changes in society and the world.
My guest in this episode is Thejus Chakravarthy , an operational consultant that focuses on people, process, and technology, in that order. Currently, he says he has his hands full as the full-time COO of one company and a C-suite consultant for another. His primary focus is on how we can make work suck less. To that end, he spent 15 years designing instructional systems, the last 5 years expanding into operational systems, and wrote Brushfire and The Flywheel and The Lever .

In this episode we talk about why operations is the place to make the structural changes in organisations to make work suck less and why systems thinking is the underlying key to it all.

Show Links
• Show homepage - pln.me/p10

Thejus
• Thejus’s website - thejusc.com
• Thejus’s newsletter, Hircinous - hircinous.com
• Brushfire - drive.google.com/file/d/1rb4cYn4mEMcXxuMApiVZAVRe-aav6lyL/view?usp=sharing
• The Flywheel and The Lever - drive.google.com/file/d/1EXi1vET4XcgFQp3Nlrjfx-Z4g80Qi4ki/view?usp=sharing
• Thejus on LinkedIn - linkedin.com/in/thejusc
• Thejus on Twitter - twitter.com/thejusc

Andy
• Andy's website - polaine.com
• Subscribe to Power of Ten - pln.me/p10
• Subscribe to Andy’s newsletter Doctor’s Note - pln.me/nws
• Andy's online courses - courses.polaine.com
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• Suggestions? Feedback? Get in touch! - polaine.com/contact
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S2 Ep24: Thejus Chakravarthy – Make Work Suck Less

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