Uploaded July 2026 | Updated September 2026, 1 week ago
Rush didn’t have hit singles—at least, that’s what Geddy Lee claimed in 1980. But with Permanent Waves, everything was about to change.
In this episode, we revisit a fascinating Circus Magazine article published during the Permanent Waves era, explore passages from the original tour program, and pull in stories from Geddy Lee’s memoir, My Effin’ Life. Together, they reveal a band learning how to write shorter, more focused songs without sacrificing complexity, ambition, or independence.
We’ll explore how Rush built its audience one fan at a time, why Neil Peart shaved his famous mustache, how the exhaustion of Hemispheres changed their recording process, and what Neil really meant by taking the work seriously without taking themselves too seriously. We’ll also examine the abandoned “Sir Gawain and the Green Knight,” Geddy’s complicated relationship with fame, Rush’s wonderfully dry sense of humor—and the unusual way Geddy created a thunderclap during “Natural Science.”
Plus, test your knowledge with three questions in the AudioMover Rock Trivia Challenge!
CHAPTERS
00:00 Rush, fame and one very unusual synthesizer technique
00:30 Welcome to AudioMover
01:08 Rush Rock Trivia Challenge
02:30 A band without hits
04:20 Rush’s incredible creative output
04:49 Why Permanent Waves was a reaction to Hemispheres
06:03 “The Spirit of Radio” jams the request lines
06:33 Recording songs directly from the radio
07:50 Why Neil Peart shaved his mustache
09:04 Fame, privacy and the meaning of “Limelight”
10:15 Geddy Lee’s encounter with Rush fans
11:50 How Rush defined success
12:38 When their career developed a life of its own
13:09 The rocket-launch theory of success
13:54 Rush finally takes time off
15:08 Geddy and Neil define success
16:09 How Hemispheres gave Rush confidence
17:07 Permanent Waves: Accessible without compromise
17:49 “The water doesn’t come and go—the waves do”
18:16 Rush’s difficult early years
19:14 Ray Danniels, Moon Records and Rush’s debut
19:46 The early KISS and Rush connection
20:11 Rush gets booed by a Sha Na Na audience
21:03 Why radio resisted Rush
21:44 Learning to say more with less
22:07 Rush’s one-to-one relationship with its fans
23:04 Taking the work seriously—not themselves
23:35 The abandoned “Sir Gawain” song
24:19 Neil Peart’s remarkable creative humility
25:38 Hockey, humor and life offstage
26:09 Geddy plays a synthesizer with his backside
26:48 Rush’s wonderfully dry stage humor
27:01 What Neil’s birds—and Geddy’s cats—thought of Rush
27:29 Rock Trivia Challenge answers
29:13 Join the AudioMover Thailand adventure
Rush didn’t have hit singles—at least, that’s what Geddy Lee claimed in 1980. But with Permanent Waves, everything was about to change.
In this episode, we revisit a fascinating Circus Magazine article published during the Permanent Waves era, explore passages from the original tour program, and pull in stories from Geddy Lee’s memoir, My Effin’ Life. Together, they reveal a band learning how to write shorter, more focused songs without sacrificing complexity, ambition, or independence.
We’ll explore how Rush built its audience one fan at a time, why Neil Peart shaved his famous mustache, how the exhaustion of Hemispheres changed their recording process, and what Neil really meant by taking the work seriously without taking themselves too seriously. We’ll also examine the abandoned “Sir Gawain and the Green Knight,” Geddy’s complicated relationship with fame, Rush’s wonderfully dry sense of humor—and the unusual way Geddy created a thunderclap during “Natural Science.”
Plus, test your knowledge with three questions in the AudioMover Rock Trivia Challenge!
CHAPTERS
00:00 Rush, fame and one very unusual synthesizer technique
00:30 Welcome to AudioMover
01:08 Rush Rock Trivia Challenge
02:30 A band without hits
04:20 Rush’s incredible creative output
04:49 Why Permanent Waves was a reaction to Hemispheres
06:03 “The Spirit of Radio” jams the request lines
06:33 Recording songs directly from the radio
07:50 Why Neil Peart shaved his mustache
09:04 Fame, privacy and the meaning of “Limelight”
10:15 Geddy Lee’s encounter with Rush fans
11:50 How Rush defined success
12:38 When their career developed a life of its own
13:09 The rocket-launch theory of success
13:54 Rush finally takes time off
15:08 Geddy and Neil define success
16:09 How Hemispheres gave Rush confidence
17:07 Permanent Waves: Accessible without compromise
17:49 “The water doesn’t come and go—the waves do”
18:16 Rush’s difficult early years
19:14 Ray Danniels, Moon Records and Rush’s debut
19:46 The early KISS and Rush connection
20:11 Rush gets booed by a Sha Na Na audience
21:03 Why radio resisted Rush
21:44 Learning to say more with less
22:07 Rush’s one-to-one relationship with its fans
23:04 Taking the work seriously—not themselves
23:35 The abandoned “Sir Gawain” song
24:19 Neil Peart’s remarkable creative humility
25:38 Hockey, humor and life offstage
26:09 Geddy plays a synthesizer with his backside
26:48 Rush’s wonderfully dry stage humor
27:01 What Neil’s birds—and Geddy’s cats—thought of Rush
27:29 Rock Trivia Challenge answers
29:13 Join the AudioMover Thailand adventure







![Did Def Leppard Fill the Zeppelin Void? Remember What Circus Magazine Said?
Def Leppard vs. the Zeppelin Vacuum (Circus, April 30, 1983) | Read & React w/ Robert John Hadfield & Shel(ley) Crow
Robert cracks open a 1983 Circus magazine feature asking: “Is Def Leppard the next Led Zeppelin?” Shel jumps in to read, Robert “mansplains” (on purpose 😄), and we time-travel through Pyromania, the Hysteria pivot, Pete Willis → Phil Collen, punk vs. hard rock, and why AC/DC might be the most “universal” band ever.
Plus: Shel’s new relationships show tease, a studio story about opening for Billy Squier(?!), and an open invite for viewers to talk show ideas on a quick call.
Also in this episode: Robert’s Audiomover Digitizing Studio (25 years). Got tapes? Get them preserved—limited 15% off code shown on screen.
Timestamps
00:00 – Cold open: “mansplain it more!”
00:20 – Meet Shel(ley) Crow (author) + new relationships show tease
02:12 – Circus (Apr 30, 1983): who ruled rock in ’83
03:37 – Setting the stage: Def Leppard’s moment
04:59 – The “next Led Zeppelin?” question
06:02 – Old guard vs. the kids (AC/DC/Scorpions/Ozzy vs. Leppard)
07:05 – Pyromania breaks; setup for Hysteria
08:21 – The pop pivot debate
09:36 – Love letter to High ’n’ Dry
11:00 – Origins (1978 Sheffield; under-20 fire)
11:36 – Viewer invite: book a 15-minute call (link in description)
13:12 – Reality check: originals vs. covers (musician talk)
14:00 – Joe Elliott’s schoolboy dream → real band
15:24 – DIY EP Get Your Rocks Off (24k sold!)
17:26 – Self-funding in the pre-internet era
17:34 – PolyGram, new management, big tours
18:52 – Opening for AC/DC / Back in Black era
19:28 – High ’n’ Dry goes UK Top 20
20:32 – Punk vs. hard rock attitudes
22:05 – Audiomover digitizing plug (15% off on screen)
23:18 – Working-class roots & day jobs
23:48 – Pete Willis out, Phil Collen in
24:00 – “We’re heavy, not radio”… (then Hysteria happens)
25:02 – Why Pyromania still slaps
25:34 – “We opened for… Billy Squier?”
26:21 – Hysteria goes mega
26:27 – “Selling out to America” discourse
27:39 – What makes a truly “universal” band? (AC/DC case)
30:03 – Chart ambitions; can Pyromania do it?
30:16 – Yes, it changed everything
31:05 – Final verdict: replacing Zeppelin?
31:44 – Spicy take: Who defined the ’80s?
32:52 – Argue with us in the comments 😄
33:42 – Wrap-up & thanks
34:13 – Shel’s books: shelleycrow.com
Links & Stuff
📞 Book a 15-minute viewer call: [insert your Calendly/booking link]
📚 Shel(ley) Crow’s books: https://shelleycrow.com
🎛️ Digitize your tapes (15% off code on screen): https://audiomover.com Did Def Leppard Fill the Zeppelin Void? Remember What Circus Magazine Said?](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/9vct8nvy0HI/mqdefault.jpg)


