Uploaded April 2022 | Updated September 2026, 1 week ago
41% of you were wrong!
See the Shooting Star / Twinkle Star run here: youtu.be/G_4trkj7ACo
Thanks to @EjayB and @campbellmop355 for helping me out with deciding on the best way to approach the first turn of lap 2, and for all the people in voice chats with me over the past few days giving me motivation to get the ultra lol. Special thanks to @justin3055 for discovering the new ODB-exclusive 3lap viable ultra strategy (youtu.be/oGn2mE27czE)!
Funnily enough, the ending strat saves 0.001 over a complete stick on the offroad.
On any shroomless lap, zip zip gains a significant amount of time over shooting star because it can take the water route and shooting star has to go all the way to the ramp path. Therefore, on both 3-0-0 (2 shroom ultra lap 1) and 1-2-0 (2 shroom ultra lap 2), shooting star is slower. For TAS, shooting star is only barely faster because of its speed and drift relative to zip zip's offroad and acceleration. Yoshi is not faster than Daisy here. Shooting star would probably be slower if it were not for the OP island section strats that RTA would absolutely not be doing, meaning even for 1-1-1 (1 shroom ultra lap 3), zip zip is still likely faster for RTA. However, RTA shooting star laps seem to be faster than zip zip (which may be due to zip zip not having been pushed to its limit) so shooting star seems to be the current fastest option for 1-1-1 (1 shroom ultra lap 3).
41% of you were wrong!
See the Shooting Star / Twinkle Star run here: youtu.be/G_4trkj7ACo
Thanks to @EjayB and @campbellmop355 for helping me out with deciding on the best way to approach the first turn of lap 2, and for all the people in voice chats with me over the past few days giving me motivation to get the ultra lol. Special thanks to @justin3055 for discovering the new ODB-exclusive 3lap viable ultra strategy (youtu.be/oGn2mE27czE)!
Funnily enough, the ending strat saves 0.001 over a complete stick on the offroad.
On any shroomless lap, zip zip gains a significant amount of time over shooting star because it can take the water route and shooting star has to go all the way to the ramp path. Therefore, on both 3-0-0 (2 shroom ultra lap 1) and 1-2-0 (2 shroom ultra lap 2), shooting star is slower. For TAS, shooting star is only barely faster because of its speed and drift relative to zip zip's offroad and acceleration. Yoshi is not faster than Daisy here. Shooting star would probably be slower if it were not for the OP island section strats that RTA would absolutely not be doing, meaning even for 1-1-1 (1 shroom ultra lap 3), zip zip is still likely faster for RTA. However, RTA shooting star laps seem to be faster than zip zip (which may be due to zip zip not having been pushed to its limit) so shooting star seems to be the current fastest option for 1-1-1 (1 shroom ultra lap 3).


![Another rDS SG 3lap LOTAD (new strat lap 3)
Skip to 1:55 for the new strat.
As with the previous TAS from 2 days ago, special thanks to dm248 (http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSM97wYzq7HkeK0agLATZxw) for coming up with the stair supergrind, and Wade474 (https://www.youtube.com/c/Wade474) for coming up with the [lap 1/2] last turn supergrind and proving both to be possible and finding fast ways to perform them (https://youtu.be/t61I1UEd8qM).
However, the difference between the last run and this one is that I do a supergrind leading into the last turn on lap 3 as well, starting it from the bridge. This is, of course, much faster to do than the slope at the very end, since you spend more time above wheelie speed and enter the last turn at well over 100 instead of about 80.
The only downside to this one is you cant hold it as long (I think, I havent done too much testing, but I always ejected early if I tried to hold it through the next uphill when I tested it on lap 2). This also is not applicable to flame runner since you cant start it with sideways momentum and are stuck at 60-70 speed for about 10 seconds before reaching the finish line.
I came up with this while I was falling asleep last night as well (same as with the LC shroomless jellogrind), so this seems to have been a very productive brainstorming period.
As this is a new BKT, previous BKT - 1:57.855 by myself: https://youtu.be/njC_z7c4K6c
See the video linked above for comments on where more time could be saved throughout the rest of the run. Another rDS SG 3lap LOTAD (new strat lap 3)](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/w8KG8TRRV6I/mqdefault.jpg)
