Uploaded August 2026 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago
“We’re laughing at Rosie O’Donnell here, but this whole pronoun thing is going in law books in certain states in this country.”
What begins as a conversation about Rosie O’Donnell and her child’s preferred pronouns quickly turns into a much larger discussion about language, gender and compelled speech.
Tim Wildmon & Company react to O’Donnell describing the difficulty she had remembering to use “they/them” pronouns for her child. O’Donnell says her child would hold up a cardboard sign reading “they” whenever she mistakenly said “she.” Eventually, O’Donnell says she took the handwritten word to her cousin’s tattoo shop and had it tattooed on her wrist as a permanent reminder.
Tim asks what “non-binary” means and why Americans are increasingly being expected to alter familiar language around sex and gender.
The primary concern goes beyond one celebrity family. The debate changes significantly when preferred pronouns move from a matter of personal courtesy into workplaces, public policy and law.
“There’s a lot of people who are very, very adamant that you change your language to conform to my perception of reality,”
The discussion also tackles the hosts’ view of biological sex and their concern that employees could face consequences when their words conflict with a coworker’s preferred identity.
Key moments:
01:18:09 Rosie O’Donnell and her child’s non-binary identity
01:19:24 O’Donnell explains the “they” tattoo
01:20:09 The hosts discuss what “non-binary” means
01:21:29 The conversation turns to compelled language
01:22:46 Concerns about pronoun rules entering law and the workplace
“We’re laughing at Rosie O’Donnell here, but this whole pronoun thing is going in law books in certain states in this country.”
What begins as a conversation about Rosie O’Donnell and her child’s preferred pronouns quickly turns into a much larger discussion about language, gender and compelled speech.
Tim Wildmon & Company react to O’Donnell describing the difficulty she had remembering to use “they/them” pronouns for her child. O’Donnell says her child would hold up a cardboard sign reading “they” whenever she mistakenly said “she.” Eventually, O’Donnell says she took the handwritten word to her cousin’s tattoo shop and had it tattooed on her wrist as a permanent reminder.
Tim asks what “non-binary” means and why Americans are increasingly being expected to alter familiar language around sex and gender.
The primary concern goes beyond one celebrity family. The debate changes significantly when preferred pronouns move from a matter of personal courtesy into workplaces, public policy and law.
“There’s a lot of people who are very, very adamant that you change your language to conform to my perception of reality,”
The discussion also tackles the hosts’ view of biological sex and their concern that employees could face consequences when their words conflict with a coworker’s preferred identity.
Key moments:
01:18:09 Rosie O’Donnell and her child’s non-binary identity
01:19:24 O’Donnell explains the “they” tattoo
01:20:09 The hosts discuss what “non-binary” means
01:21:29 The conversation turns to compelled language
01:22:46 Concerns about pronoun rules entering law and the workplace
