Uploaded August 2024 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago
In this very special episode of Book Overflow, Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups are joined by the prolific Robert "Uncle Bob" Martin to discuss his book "Clean Coder." Join them as Uncle Bob talks about his thoughts on the "flow zone," humility, and what coding has to do with flying an airplane!
You can find Carter and Nathan's original discussion of "Clean Coder" here: youtu.be/RkxVB1eNdCc
Books Referenced in this Episode:
Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.
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- Clean Coder by Robert Martin amzn.to/3z3Sf6G (Paid Link)
- Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs by Harold Abelson and Gerald Jay Sussman amzn.to/3TeLRk2 (Paid Link)
- Functional Design by Robert Martin amzn.to/3Z5Lzj1
00:00 Intro
03:29 Motivation for writing Clean Coder
06:00 Learning from Life Experiences
09:39 Professionalism and the Challenger Story
17:14 Pros and Cons of Flow State (The Zone)
21:10 Learning from your mistakes
24:11 Sobriety (and a story of getting drunk at a party)
30:17 Timeless advice, Professionalism, and saying No
35:39 Blameless Postmortems and taking responsibility
40:03 Agency, Control, Situational Awareness and Culture
43:58 Unconventional career paths and creativity
53:00 Layers of Abstraction
56:16 Thoughts on AI and LLMs
01:00:58 Book Recommendations
01:06:49 Closing Thoughts
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Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week!
The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at bookoverflow.io
In this very special episode of Book Overflow, Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups are joined by the prolific Robert "Uncle Bob" Martin to discuss his book "Clean Coder." Join them as Uncle Bob talks about his thoughts on the "flow zone," humility, and what coding has to do with flying an airplane!
You can find Carter and Nathan's original discussion of "Clean Coder" here: youtu.be/RkxVB1eNdCc
Books Referenced in this Episode:
Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.
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- Clean Coder by Robert Martin amzn.to/3z3Sf6G (Paid Link)
- Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs by Harold Abelson and Gerald Jay Sussman amzn.to/3TeLRk2 (Paid Link)
- Functional Design by Robert Martin amzn.to/3Z5Lzj1
00:00 Intro
03:29 Motivation for writing Clean Coder
06:00 Learning from Life Experiences
09:39 Professionalism and the Challenger Story
17:14 Pros and Cons of Flow State (The Zone)
21:10 Learning from your mistakes
24:11 Sobriety (and a story of getting drunk at a party)
30:17 Timeless advice, Professionalism, and saying No
35:39 Blameless Postmortems and taking responsibility
40:03 Agency, Control, Situational Awareness and Culture
43:58 Unconventional career paths and creativity
53:00 Layers of Abstraction
56:16 Thoughts on AI and LLMs
01:00:58 Book Recommendations
01:06:49 Closing Thoughts
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Join our Discord Server: discord.gg/ZwS2fqW7ZZ
Spotify: open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5L
Apple Podcasts: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325
X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpod
Carter on X: https://x.com/cartermorgan
Nathan's newsletter rojoroboto.com/newletter
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Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week!
The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at bookoverflow.io
