Sentientism | "Religion is at the intersection of everything I care about" - @EmersonGreen - Sentientism Ep:125 @Sentientism | Uploaded September 2022 | Updated October 2024, 27 minutes ago.
Emerson (sentientism.info/sentientist-pledge/emerson-green) is the host of the Counter Apologetics & Walden Pod podcasts. Both are also available on his @EmersonGreen YouTube channel. You can find all his links here: https://linktr.ee/emersongreen.
In Sentientist Conversations we talk about the two most important questions: “what’s real?” & “what matters?”
Sentientism is "evidence, reason & compassion for all sentient beings." The audio is on our Podcast: apple.co/391khQO & pod.link/1540408008.
We discuss:
00:00 Welcome
01:32 Emerson's Intro
- Podcasting as a relationship saver :)
- Counter Apologetics (#religion & #atheism)
- Walden Pod (#consciousness & #panpsychism )
- "Religion is at the intersection of practically everything I care about"
05:01 What's Real?
- Raised as a #youngearth #creationist Christian, sheltered from science & philosophy
- Now atheist, "maybe beginning to lean #agnostic "
- Attending #apologetics Camp "this is the defence! I don't believe in god"
- @answersingenesis "they do try to give scientific & philosophical arguments"
- "Young Earth Creationism is one of the wrongest things you could propose"
- "A book from god seems like a pretty solid epistemic source"
- "The universe... is really not 6000 years old"
- Mum is a professor at an Xtian university
- "It's wrong to say they're #anti-science exactly"
- "I learned about evolution later & was blown away"
- "I was blown away by how bad the Bible was... morally"
- The failure of prayer
- #mormonism & the "Under The Banner of Prayer" film. The risks of thinking god is speaking to you
- "The mainstream Xtian narrative... is just basically incoherent"
- Hell & the #problemofevil vs. a just, good, god. #Theodicy
- Historical contingency, religious diversity
- "If they were born in India they'd probably be Hindus"
- "I was very angry for a while... felt like I'd been lied to"
- The psychological shock of deconverting
- "If I could choose to be believe I would... just for the sake of my mum"
- The distress of family & friends
- Hidden atheism within religious communities & even pastors
- Shunning e.g. "gay homeless teenagers around Salt Lake City"
- Natural #theology
- #Fideism & faith vs. "everyone I know has reasons"
- Philip Goff & secular religion
- @bartdehrman
- Naturalism & the natural world as "common ground"
- Usage vs. definitions
- Conservative/scientific & moderate/abstract & liberal naturalisms vs. supernaturalism
- "Sometimes I self-deprecatingy call myself a 'spooky naturalist'"
- "Here's what we know from science - is that all there is?"
- @seancarroll
37:52 What Matters?
- Xtian propaganda that morals "belong" to religion so atheists must be nihilists
- "Moral #nihilism is one of the least plausible positions you can name... suffering isn't bad?"
- William Lane Craig @ReasonableFaithOrg & divine command theory (burning people for eternity is "good"). God as the moral subject (subjectivism)
- Moral anti-realism, relativism, objectivism
- Ethical non-naturalism: "Morality is real & objective, there are right & wrong answers to moral questions. The holocaust was bad - it doesn't matter how anyone feels about it... suffering just is bad."
- Ethical truths as like mathematical/logical truths
- #Euthyphro dilemma
- Are normative claims reducible to the descriptive? (Is-ought)
- #empiricism vs. rational intuition
- Mike Huemer's "Ethical Intuitionism" youtu.be/O6lNEdVcohY
51:15 Who Matters?
- "I have #vegan moral principles... but I'm not a consistent vegan"
- Disgust "they're ribs"
- "It's hard to overstate how evil factory farming actually is"
- Getting banned from Twitter for speaking up about factory farming
- "It's hard not to get angry when people are diminishing & trivialising the very real, very terrible suffering of trillions of sentient beings"
- @rickygervais
- "If you like animals then don't eat them... I always have loved animals"
- Baby animals... lamb & veal... "what's wrong with you?"
- @sentienceinstitute2724 surveys on banning slaughterhouses & factory farms
- "Family farms" & "free range" & "regenerative animal agriculture"
- Cultivated meat & plant-based products
- "People will actually stop using factory farms... then we can ban it"
- "#sentience is ultimately what I care about... there might be other things that matter as well as sentience"
- #pluralism & #utilitarianism & #naturallawtheory
- "If you can't tell which of those is worse you might be morally stunted"
- Dignity, autonomy
- Maximising, minimising & demandingness
- Is there a minimal level of sentience that wouldn't matter?
...
01:59:41 A Better Future?
... And much more! Full show notes at sentientism.info
#Sentientism is “Evidence, reason & compassion for all #sentient beings.” More at sentientism.info/. Join our "I'm a Sentientist" wall sentientism.info/wall/.
Everyone, Sentientist or not, is welcome in our groups. E.g.: facebook.com/groups/sentientism.
Emerson (sentientism.info/sentientist-pledge/emerson-green) is the host of the Counter Apologetics & Walden Pod podcasts. Both are also available on his @EmersonGreen YouTube channel. You can find all his links here: https://linktr.ee/emersongreen.
In Sentientist Conversations we talk about the two most important questions: “what’s real?” & “what matters?”
Sentientism is "evidence, reason & compassion for all sentient beings." The audio is on our Podcast: apple.co/391khQO & pod.link/1540408008.
We discuss:
00:00 Welcome
01:32 Emerson's Intro
- Podcasting as a relationship saver :)
- Counter Apologetics (#religion & #atheism)
- Walden Pod (#consciousness & #panpsychism )
- "Religion is at the intersection of practically everything I care about"
05:01 What's Real?
- Raised as a #youngearth #creationist Christian, sheltered from science & philosophy
- Now atheist, "maybe beginning to lean #agnostic "
- Attending #apologetics Camp "this is the defence! I don't believe in god"
- @answersingenesis "they do try to give scientific & philosophical arguments"
- "Young Earth Creationism is one of the wrongest things you could propose"
- "A book from god seems like a pretty solid epistemic source"
- "The universe... is really not 6000 years old"
- Mum is a professor at an Xtian university
- "It's wrong to say they're #anti-science exactly"
- "I learned about evolution later & was blown away"
- "I was blown away by how bad the Bible was... morally"
- The failure of prayer
- #mormonism & the "Under The Banner of Prayer" film. The risks of thinking god is speaking to you
- "The mainstream Xtian narrative... is just basically incoherent"
- Hell & the #problemofevil vs. a just, good, god. #Theodicy
- Historical contingency, religious diversity
- "If they were born in India they'd probably be Hindus"
- "I was very angry for a while... felt like I'd been lied to"
- The psychological shock of deconverting
- "If I could choose to be believe I would... just for the sake of my mum"
- The distress of family & friends
- Hidden atheism within religious communities & even pastors
- Shunning e.g. "gay homeless teenagers around Salt Lake City"
- Natural #theology
- #Fideism & faith vs. "everyone I know has reasons"
- Philip Goff & secular religion
- @bartdehrman
- Naturalism & the natural world as "common ground"
- Usage vs. definitions
- Conservative/scientific & moderate/abstract & liberal naturalisms vs. supernaturalism
- "Sometimes I self-deprecatingy call myself a 'spooky naturalist'"
- "Here's what we know from science - is that all there is?"
- @seancarroll
37:52 What Matters?
- Xtian propaganda that morals "belong" to religion so atheists must be nihilists
- "Moral #nihilism is one of the least plausible positions you can name... suffering isn't bad?"
- William Lane Craig @ReasonableFaithOrg & divine command theory (burning people for eternity is "good"). God as the moral subject (subjectivism)
- Moral anti-realism, relativism, objectivism
- Ethical non-naturalism: "Morality is real & objective, there are right & wrong answers to moral questions. The holocaust was bad - it doesn't matter how anyone feels about it... suffering just is bad."
- Ethical truths as like mathematical/logical truths
- #Euthyphro dilemma
- Are normative claims reducible to the descriptive? (Is-ought)
- #empiricism vs. rational intuition
- Mike Huemer's "Ethical Intuitionism" youtu.be/O6lNEdVcohY
51:15 Who Matters?
- "I have #vegan moral principles... but I'm not a consistent vegan"
- Disgust "they're ribs"
- "It's hard to overstate how evil factory farming actually is"
- Getting banned from Twitter for speaking up about factory farming
- "It's hard not to get angry when people are diminishing & trivialising the very real, very terrible suffering of trillions of sentient beings"
- @rickygervais
- "If you like animals then don't eat them... I always have loved animals"
- Baby animals... lamb & veal... "what's wrong with you?"
- @sentienceinstitute2724 surveys on banning slaughterhouses & factory farms
- "Family farms" & "free range" & "regenerative animal agriculture"
- Cultivated meat & plant-based products
- "People will actually stop using factory farms... then we can ban it"
- "#sentience is ultimately what I care about... there might be other things that matter as well as sentience"
- #pluralism & #utilitarianism & #naturallawtheory
- "If you can't tell which of those is worse you might be morally stunted"
- Dignity, autonomy
- Maximising, minimising & demandingness
- Is there a minimal level of sentience that wouldn't matter?
...
01:59:41 A Better Future?
... And much more! Full show notes at sentientism.info
#Sentientism is “Evidence, reason & compassion for all #sentient beings.” More at sentientism.info/. Join our "I'm a Sentientist" wall sentientism.info/wall/.
Everyone, Sentientist or not, is welcome in our groups. E.g.: facebook.com/groups/sentientism.
