Uploaded August 2021 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago
In this episode, Cobie & Ledger bring on three expert crypto lawyers: Gabriel Shapiro, Sarah Brennan, and Marc Goldich, to do a deep dive on crypto regulatory issues that are in the news. It's very valuable for anyone in crypto.
This episode is presented by FTX (formerly Blockfolio): uponly.tv/ftx
00:00 - Intro and background
06:00 - Is the SEC going to do something this time?
09:30 - Open source code and DeFi
15:44 - Gensler speech SEC
25:00 - Gensler mentioning money laundering and other illegal activities
30:25 - Speculation vs. real products that currently exist
37:30 - Crypto as a medium of exchange
41:30 - Lending and high APY’s / Assuming the population isn’t smart enough to make their own decisions
47:45 - Airdrops and blocking the United States / Preventing opportunity
51:00 - Accredited Investor Rules and Security Laws / Reporting
53:55 - Going after people and not the technology / Addressing harm
59:50 - Can more voices and lobbyists help crypto’s chances?
1:06:30 - What makes something a security?
1:16:50 - Exchanges listing hundreds of tokens / Blocking the United States / VPNs
1:26:40 - Stablecoins and DeFi
1:36:20 - Custody and CME / Who will have to be an SEC reporter?
1:46:00 - Reversibility
1:51:00 - Will they ever go after miners?
1:55:00 - “The heart of finance is trust.”
In this episode, Cobie & Ledger bring on three expert crypto lawyers: Gabriel Shapiro, Sarah Brennan, and Marc Goldich, to do a deep dive on crypto regulatory issues that are in the news. It's very valuable for anyone in crypto.
This episode is presented by FTX (formerly Blockfolio): uponly.tv/ftx
00:00 - Intro and background
06:00 - Is the SEC going to do something this time?
09:30 - Open source code and DeFi
15:44 - Gensler speech SEC
25:00 - Gensler mentioning money laundering and other illegal activities
30:25 - Speculation vs. real products that currently exist
37:30 - Crypto as a medium of exchange
41:30 - Lending and high APY’s / Assuming the population isn’t smart enough to make their own decisions
47:45 - Airdrops and blocking the United States / Preventing opportunity
51:00 - Accredited Investor Rules and Security Laws / Reporting
53:55 - Going after people and not the technology / Addressing harm
59:50 - Can more voices and lobbyists help crypto’s chances?
1:06:30 - What makes something a security?
1:16:50 - Exchanges listing hundreds of tokens / Blocking the United States / VPNs
1:26:40 - Stablecoins and DeFi
1:36:20 - Custody and CME / Who will have to be an SEC reporter?
1:46:00 - Reversibility
1:51:00 - Will they ever go after miners?
1:55:00 - “The heart of finance is trust.”
