Misshappycatholic | Reform is Traditional: We Need the Novus Ordo (& Ottaviani Agrees) @mrshappycatholic | Uploaded September 2023 | Updated October 2024, 1 hour ago.
Tony A. joins me to discuss the reform of the Mass, explain misconceptions about the Novus Ordo, and refute point by point the so-called Ottaviani Intervention. Tony has added a fourth paper to his series on the controversial teachings of Vatican II, answering the accusations of error and fault that the Society of St. Pius X makes regarding them.
Please read or download the paper here: tradrecovery.com/_files/ugd/fe1e74_ce68bdedfd54441da710f6f3597b2ef0.pdf
(Tony also made a video with me about Collegiality, Ecumenism and Religious Liberty here: youtu.be/kmBR0sdq1xk )
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I'd love to hear about your story or faith journey, and offer encouragement in any way I can! Please reach out to lauravandervos@outlook.com
For ex-Traditionalists who find themselves needing support or resources, see our website: tradrecovery.com
If you have enjoyed or benefitted from the content on my channel, please consider lending your support to help me continue this work!
May God reward you!
ko-fi.com/lauravandervos
00:00 Introduction: (Not) the Ottaviani Intervention?
04:06 Outdated Citations
06:09 Misquoting Arch. Bugnini (and others)
09:08 What does the SSPX say about the New Mass?
13:05 Why Mistrusting the Church is a Problem
29:14 Intervention pt. 1: Definition of the Mass
32:23 Quick Note: Ends of Marriage
34:58 Intervention pt. 2: Unity of the Rite/Externals
40:36 Quick Note: Why Reform the Missal?
44:30 Quick Note: Reduction Isn’t Refutation / Scrupulous Duplication
50:00 Quick Note: Quo Primum
56:35 Quick Note: The Use of Latin
01:05:11 Quick Note: Lay Participation
01:08:25 Quick Note: Pastoral Accommodations for Traditionalists?
01:19:32 Intervention pt. 3: Priest & Faithful
01:24:39 Intervention pt. 4: Real Presence
01:27:52 Intervention pt. 5: Relation to Eastern Traditions
01:29:26 Intervention pt. 6: The Ends of the Mass
01:34:39 Intervention pt. 7: Defenses Against Error / Lex Orandi, Lex Credendi
01:40:05 Preservation vs. Development
01:43:11 Liturgically Abusing the TLM
01:46:24 The Spiritual Dangers of Avoiding the New Mass
Tony A. joins me to discuss the reform of the Mass, explain misconceptions about the Novus Ordo, and refute point by point the so-called Ottaviani Intervention. Tony has added a fourth paper to his series on the controversial teachings of Vatican II, answering the accusations of error and fault that the Society of St. Pius X makes regarding them.
Please read or download the paper here: tradrecovery.com/_files/ugd/fe1e74_ce68bdedfd54441da710f6f3597b2ef0.pdf
(Tony also made a video with me about Collegiality, Ecumenism and Religious Liberty here: youtu.be/kmBR0sdq1xk )
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I'd love to hear about your story or faith journey, and offer encouragement in any way I can! Please reach out to lauravandervos@outlook.com
For ex-Traditionalists who find themselves needing support or resources, see our website: tradrecovery.com
If you have enjoyed or benefitted from the content on my channel, please consider lending your support to help me continue this work!
May God reward you!
ko-fi.com/lauravandervos
00:00 Introduction: (Not) the Ottaviani Intervention?
04:06 Outdated Citations
06:09 Misquoting Arch. Bugnini (and others)
09:08 What does the SSPX say about the New Mass?
13:05 Why Mistrusting the Church is a Problem
29:14 Intervention pt. 1: Definition of the Mass
32:23 Quick Note: Ends of Marriage
34:58 Intervention pt. 2: Unity of the Rite/Externals
40:36 Quick Note: Why Reform the Missal?
44:30 Quick Note: Reduction Isn’t Refutation / Scrupulous Duplication
50:00 Quick Note: Quo Primum
56:35 Quick Note: The Use of Latin
01:05:11 Quick Note: Lay Participation
01:08:25 Quick Note: Pastoral Accommodations for Traditionalists?
01:19:32 Intervention pt. 3: Priest & Faithful
01:24:39 Intervention pt. 4: Real Presence
01:27:52 Intervention pt. 5: Relation to Eastern Traditions
01:29:26 Intervention pt. 6: The Ends of the Mass
01:34:39 Intervention pt. 7: Defenses Against Error / Lex Orandi, Lex Credendi
01:40:05 Preservation vs. Development
01:43:11 Liturgically Abusing the TLM
01:46:24 The Spiritual Dangers of Avoiding the New Mass
