Rupert Sheldrake | Randomness and Indeterminism: Sheldrake-Vernon Dialogue 89 @RupertSheldrakePhD | Uploaded July 2024 | Updated October 2024, 3 hours ago.
Randomness and luck, fate and providence. How do these facets of life relate to one another? Or is everything, actually, mechanically determined with synchronicities, say, being no more than coincidences? In this episode of the Sheldrake-Vernon Dialogues, Rupert Sheldrake and Mark Vernon discuss the ways in which philosophers and scientists, ancient and modern, have imagined and explored notions of causality and sympathy in nature, alongside fortune and theurgy in relation to the gods. The ideas of Aristotle and Boethius provide a striking background against which to consider more recent scientific work. Rupert also demonstrates how fields can influence seemingly random effects using a Galton Board - a remarkably profound analogue for, say, practices such as prayer.
0:00 Introduction and Aristotle’s Perspective on Randomness
3:54 Concepts of Luck and Chance in Ancient Philosophy
7:00 Fate, Providence, and the Role of Deities
8:46 Casting Lots and Divination Practices
13:00 Mechanical Determinism and the Evolution of Scientific Thought
16:48 Quantum Theory and Chaos Theory
18:23 Indeterminism in Nature and Biology
20:30 Computer Determinism and Misconceptions
24:50 Synchronicity and Jung’s Theories
29:00 Demonstration of the Galton Board
31:30 Influence of Invisible Fields on Random Events
34:00 Magnetic Fields and Morphogenetic Fields
37:00 Final Thoughts on Indeterminism and Order in Nature
38:15 Conclusion and Appreciation for Visual Demonstrations
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Dr Mark Vernon is a psychotherapist and writer with a rich academic background in physics, theology, and philosophy. He contributes to programmes on the radio, writes and reviews for newspapers and magazines, gives talks and podcasts. His books have covered themes including friendship and God, ancient Greek philosophy and wellbeing. His new book, out August 2019, is "A Secret History of Christianity: Jesus, the Last Inkling and the Evolution of Consciousness". He has a PhD in ancient Greek philosophy, and other degrees in physics and in theology, and works as a psychotherapist in private practice. He used to be an Anglican priest.
Mark's latest book is...
A Secret History of Christianity: Jesus, the Last Inkling, and the Evolution of Consciousness
markvernon.com/books/a-secret-history-of-christianity?svd=89
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Dr Rupert Sheldrake, PhD, is a biologist and author best known for his hypothesis of morphic resonance. At Cambridge University, as a Fellow of Clare College, he was Director of Studies in biochemistry and cell biology. As the Rosenheim Research Fellow of the Royal Society, he carried out research on the development of plants and the ageing of cells, and together with Philip Rubery discovered the mechanism of polar auxin transport. In India, he was Principal Plant Physiologist at the International Crops Research Institute for the Semi-Arid Tropics, where he helped develop new cropping systems now widely used by farmers. He is the author of more than 100 papers in peer-reviewed journals and his research contributions have been widely recognized by the academic community, earning him a notable h-index for numerous citations. On ResearchGate his Research Interest Score puts him among the top 4% of scientists.
sheldrake.org/about-rupert-sheldrake?svd=89
Randomness and luck, fate and providence. How do these facets of life relate to one another? Or is everything, actually, mechanically determined with synchronicities, say, being no more than coincidences? In this episode of the Sheldrake-Vernon Dialogues, Rupert Sheldrake and Mark Vernon discuss the ways in which philosophers and scientists, ancient and modern, have imagined and explored notions of causality and sympathy in nature, alongside fortune and theurgy in relation to the gods. The ideas of Aristotle and Boethius provide a striking background against which to consider more recent scientific work. Rupert also demonstrates how fields can influence seemingly random effects using a Galton Board - a remarkably profound analogue for, say, practices such as prayer.
0:00 Introduction and Aristotle’s Perspective on Randomness
3:54 Concepts of Luck and Chance in Ancient Philosophy
7:00 Fate, Providence, and the Role of Deities
8:46 Casting Lots and Divination Practices
13:00 Mechanical Determinism and the Evolution of Scientific Thought
16:48 Quantum Theory and Chaos Theory
18:23 Indeterminism in Nature and Biology
20:30 Computer Determinism and Misconceptions
24:50 Synchronicity and Jung’s Theories
29:00 Demonstration of the Galton Board
31:30 Influence of Invisible Fields on Random Events
34:00 Magnetic Fields and Morphogenetic Fields
37:00 Final Thoughts on Indeterminism and Order in Nature
38:15 Conclusion and Appreciation for Visual Demonstrations
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Dr Mark Vernon is a psychotherapist and writer with a rich academic background in physics, theology, and philosophy. He contributes to programmes on the radio, writes and reviews for newspapers and magazines, gives talks and podcasts. His books have covered themes including friendship and God, ancient Greek philosophy and wellbeing. His new book, out August 2019, is "A Secret History of Christianity: Jesus, the Last Inkling and the Evolution of Consciousness". He has a PhD in ancient Greek philosophy, and other degrees in physics and in theology, and works as a psychotherapist in private practice. He used to be an Anglican priest.
Mark's latest book is...
A Secret History of Christianity: Jesus, the Last Inkling, and the Evolution of Consciousness
markvernon.com/books/a-secret-history-of-christianity?svd=89
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Dr Rupert Sheldrake, PhD, is a biologist and author best known for his hypothesis of morphic resonance. At Cambridge University, as a Fellow of Clare College, he was Director of Studies in biochemistry and cell biology. As the Rosenheim Research Fellow of the Royal Society, he carried out research on the development of plants and the ageing of cells, and together with Philip Rubery discovered the mechanism of polar auxin transport. In India, he was Principal Plant Physiologist at the International Crops Research Institute for the Semi-Arid Tropics, where he helped develop new cropping systems now widely used by farmers. He is the author of more than 100 papers in peer-reviewed journals and his research contributions have been widely recognized by the academic community, earning him a notable h-index for numerous citations. On ResearchGate his Research Interest Score puts him among the top 4% of scientists.
sheldrake.org/about-rupert-sheldrake?svd=89
