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Meg Josephson, licensed psychotherapist, certified meditation teacher, and New York Times bestselling author of Are You Mad At Me? How to Stop Focusing On What Others Think And Start Living For You, joins Lewis Howes to break down the psychology of people pleasing through the lens of the fawn response, a nervous system threat response alongside fight, flight, and freeze. Josephson explores her six people pleaser archetypes (peacekeeper, performer, perfectionist, chameleon, caretaker, lone wolf), the distinction between reassurance seeking and validation, complex trauma and generational trauma patterns, internal family systems (IFS) developed by Dick Schwartz, and the role of shame, the inner critic, and self-blame in compulsive approval-seeking.
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00:00:00 Intro to People Pleasing
00:04:09 The Fawn Response Explained
00:08:40 Tolerating Emotional Discomfort
00:15:06 Releasing Fear of Perception
00:20:35 Parenting & The Power of Repair
00:25:39 6 People Pleaser Archetypes
00:32:06 Over-Apologizing & Reassurance
00:38:20 Boundaries Without Guilt
00:45:04 Healing Generational Trauma
00:51:51 Internal Family Systems (IFS)
00:53:24 Sobriety & Processing Pain
01:03:42 Meg's Three Final Truths
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Meg Josephson, licensed psychotherapist, certified meditation teacher, and New York Times bestselling author of Are You Mad At Me? How to Stop Focusing On What Others Think And Start Living For You, joins Lewis Howes to break down the psychology of people pleasing through the lens of the fawn response, a nervous system threat response alongside fight, flight, and freeze. Josephson explores her six people pleaser archetypes (peacekeeper, performer, perfectionist, chameleon, caretaker, lone wolf), the distinction between reassurance seeking and validation, complex trauma and generational trauma patterns, internal family systems (IFS) developed by Dick Schwartz, and the role of shame, the inner critic, and self-blame in compulsive approval-seeking.
Get Meg's Book Are You Mad at Me? amzn.to/3QqzOlc
Listen to this episode on the go!
🍎 Apple Podcasts: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-school-of-greatness/id596047499
🟢 Spotify: open.spotify.com/show/07GQhOZboEZOE1ysnFLipT?si=a03d916bade54d4f
For more info about this episode, go to lewishowes.com/1942
💰 get my NEW YORK TIMES BESTSELLING book "Make Money Easy" today!lewishowes.com/moneyyou
📙 get my NEW YORK TIMES BESTSELLING book "The Greatness Mindset" today! lewishowes.com/gmyo
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Spanish: youtube.com/@LewisHowesEspañol
Portuguese: youtube.com/@LewisHowesPortugues
Lewis Howes Shorts: youtube.com/@lewishowesshorts
00:00:00 Intro to People Pleasing
00:04:09 The Fawn Response Explained
00:08:40 Tolerating Emotional Discomfort
00:15:06 Releasing Fear of Perception
00:20:35 Parenting & The Power of Repair
00:25:39 6 People Pleaser Archetypes
00:32:06 Over-Apologizing & Reassurance
00:38:20 Boundaries Without Guilt
00:45:04 Healing Generational Trauma
00:51:51 Internal Family Systems (IFS)
00:53:24 Sobriety & Processing Pain
01:03:42 Meg's Three Final Truths
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#greatness #inspiration #motivation
