Bill Schlegel | Pre-incarnate Appearances of the Son of God in the OT: Truth or Myth, Part 1, with Troy Salinger @billschlegel1 | Uploaded October 2021 | Updated October 2024, 2 hours ago.
Interview with painter and theologian Troy Salinger.
Troy Salinger's blog is Let the Truth Come Out:
letthetruthcomeoutblog.wordpress.com
In this first episode of a series, we discuss motivations for why some Christians feel the need to find pre-incarnate appearances of Jesus in the OT. Their motivation is based on the pre-supposition that Jesus was more than a human being. That he was a spirit emanation out of God, a created being like an angel, or God himself, or one member of a godhead.
No one in the NT goes to the OT to find evidences of the pre-incarnate God the Son, so those who believe in a pre-incarnate son look for clues themselves to find him.
Justin Martyr was the first Christian writer on record to propose the idea that certain appearances of God in the Old Testament were actually Jesus. Justin Martyr lived in the middle of the 2ndcentury, some 100 years after Jesus was on earth.
At least three places in the New Testament say that God can’t be seen. The Trinitarian assumes this refers to the Father (or the Trinity?), but for some reason maintains that the second person of the godhead can be seen. But how is it that the Father can not be seen, but the son who is fully God exactly the same as the Father in every way, can be seen?
We discuss three New Testament verses (1 Cor. 10:3-4, 9 and Jude 5) that Trinitarians claim show that Jesus was literally alive in the Old Testament period and involved in the Israelite Exodus from Egypt.
In the next episode, God willing, we discuss if the Angel of the Lord who appeared in the New Testament was a pre-incarnate appearance of the Son of God.
Links for this episode:
Troy Salinger blog home: https: //letthetruthcomeoutblog.wordpress.com
Pre-incarnate appearances of the Son of God in the OT: Truth or Myth, Part 1
letthetruthcomeoutblog.wordpress.com/2019/01/23/pre-incarnate-appearances-of-the-son-of-god-in-the-ot-truth-or-myth-part-1
Refutation of the Master’s University Document on the Deity of Christ and the Trinity(8 articles)
letthetruthcomeoutblog.wordpress.com/?s=Refutation+master%27s+university
(Biblical) Unitarian Christian Alliance Conference, Oct. 15-17, 2012
unitarianchristianalliance.org/conference
Interview with painter and theologian Troy Salinger.
Troy Salinger's blog is Let the Truth Come Out:
letthetruthcomeoutblog.wordpress.com
In this first episode of a series, we discuss motivations for why some Christians feel the need to find pre-incarnate appearances of Jesus in the OT. Their motivation is based on the pre-supposition that Jesus was more than a human being. That he was a spirit emanation out of God, a created being like an angel, or God himself, or one member of a godhead.
No one in the NT goes to the OT to find evidences of the pre-incarnate God the Son, so those who believe in a pre-incarnate son look for clues themselves to find him.
Justin Martyr was the first Christian writer on record to propose the idea that certain appearances of God in the Old Testament were actually Jesus. Justin Martyr lived in the middle of the 2ndcentury, some 100 years after Jesus was on earth.
At least three places in the New Testament say that God can’t be seen. The Trinitarian assumes this refers to the Father (or the Trinity?), but for some reason maintains that the second person of the godhead can be seen. But how is it that the Father can not be seen, but the son who is fully God exactly the same as the Father in every way, can be seen?
We discuss three New Testament verses (1 Cor. 10:3-4, 9 and Jude 5) that Trinitarians claim show that Jesus was literally alive in the Old Testament period and involved in the Israelite Exodus from Egypt.
In the next episode, God willing, we discuss if the Angel of the Lord who appeared in the New Testament was a pre-incarnate appearance of the Son of God.
Links for this episode:
Troy Salinger blog home: https: //letthetruthcomeoutblog.wordpress.com
Pre-incarnate appearances of the Son of God in the OT: Truth or Myth, Part 1
letthetruthcomeoutblog.wordpress.com/2019/01/23/pre-incarnate-appearances-of-the-son-of-god-in-the-ot-truth-or-myth-part-1
Refutation of the Master’s University Document on the Deity of Christ and the Trinity(8 articles)
letthetruthcomeoutblog.wordpress.com/?s=Refutation+master%27s+university
(Biblical) Unitarian Christian Alliance Conference, Oct. 15-17, 2012
unitarianchristianalliance.org/conference
