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Quick overview of the session and goals
06:00 Chris Welch, administration perspective on authentic learning and students owning the learning
Students owning the learning changes the narrative around engagement
Universal Constructs that is so important
10:00 rest of introductions and persepctive from Sarah Vice a 6th grade teacher
Failure is a gift
The importance of human experience
Process over product
14:24 Steven Smith, NASA perspective
8 most dreaded words "When am I ever going to use this?"
Our students are going to be part of the space economy
Failure is vital lesson we don't learn well
19:21 Chris Welch, Administrator on providing context of how instructional design of
How does civilizations from ancient history survive?
What does survival look like present day with All Thirteen book?
How do we then work with experts to think about the future that will be "present day" for our students?
22:30 Jeff Robin and how to really think about projects from a real perspective
Teachers need to do the project first
Students don't want dumpster projects
You only remember when learning is fun and exciting
25:50 Amanda Clark and importance of strong leadership
Need to provide space for teachers to be creative and to give teachers space to try things out.
We need to do more than just teach standards
Teachers need support and love from leaders, community, school boards, etc.
27:41 Erin Starkey and her story how pbl brought joy back to her teaching
PBL was a lightbulb for Erin because she was passionate and that is contagious
PBL was a gamechanger because she found joy and in students from age of 4 and above
29:30 Beth Campbell, librarian perspective on how to build school community to do the work
Isolated spaces in schools are gone. PBL brings opportunities to team because together we are better
Library should be alive and vibrant with co-teaching and co-design for learning opportunities
Incredible research on the brain and heart
31:45 Chad Uhde, elementary principal and form PBL instructional coach
Power of taking risks and see what we can do. Be brave to change identity of students
PBL provides new outlet for students to showcase who they are and their why
35:00 How do you assess and measure and quantify success?
Jeff Robin
Can the students explain what they have learned?
Do we need an easy number?
Are we doing education for ourselves or for the students?
Erin Starkey
Requires intentional integration
UBD and designing formative flags around the way
Constantly meet needs of students naturally in PBL
Rubrics for learning not a checklist of tasks
Steven Smith
Lots of standards are performance based on what students can do
Challenge the paradigm that we need a numerical value for everything
Life does not work that way
Preparing students for a world that they will be creating
We are not helping our students by creating widgets
Are we here for our students or ourselves?
Why go through all the nonsense of teaching if we want each student to fit a single mold?
We are in the space age and students will decide if they want to go to Disney in Florida, California, or space?
We need to either start preparing our students for the future or stop pretending like we are trying
Chris Welch
Focus on standards and conversation on "How do you know?"
Where is the learning visible?
We end up with not just standards but thinking progressions on how to think at deeper cognitive rigor and DOK.
Exchange not just instruction but facilitation
YOUR CHALLENGE
Share ideas you gathered from the conversation with us on the socials.
What resonated with you?
RESOURCE MENTIONED IN SHOW
Everything can be found here - sites.google.com/view/creatingauthenticlearning/power-of-authentic-learning
Universal Constructs
Quick overview of the session and goals
06:00 Chris Welch, administration perspective on authentic learning and students owning the learning
Students owning the learning changes the narrative around engagement
Universal Constructs that is so important
10:00 rest of introductions and persepctive from Sarah Vice a 6th grade teacher
Failure is a gift
The importance of human experience
Process over product
14:24 Steven Smith, NASA perspective
8 most dreaded words "When am I ever going to use this?"
Our students are going to be part of the space economy
Failure is vital lesson we don't learn well
19:21 Chris Welch, Administrator on providing context of how instructional design of
How does civilizations from ancient history survive?
What does survival look like present day with All Thirteen book?
How do we then work with experts to think about the future that will be "present day" for our students?
22:30 Jeff Robin and how to really think about projects from a real perspective
Teachers need to do the project first
Students don't want dumpster projects
You only remember when learning is fun and exciting
25:50 Amanda Clark and importance of strong leadership
Need to provide space for teachers to be creative and to give teachers space to try things out.
We need to do more than just teach standards
Teachers need support and love from leaders, community, school boards, etc.
27:41 Erin Starkey and her story how pbl brought joy back to her teaching
PBL was a lightbulb for Erin because she was passionate and that is contagious
PBL was a gamechanger because she found joy and in students from age of 4 and above
29:30 Beth Campbell, librarian perspective on how to build school community to do the work
Isolated spaces in schools are gone. PBL brings opportunities to team because together we are better
Library should be alive and vibrant with co-teaching and co-design for learning opportunities
Incredible research on the brain and heart
31:45 Chad Uhde, elementary principal and form PBL instructional coach
Power of taking risks and see what we can do. Be brave to change identity of students
PBL provides new outlet for students to showcase who they are and their why
35:00 How do you assess and measure and quantify success?
Jeff Robin
Can the students explain what they have learned?
Do we need an easy number?
Are we doing education for ourselves or for the students?
Erin Starkey
Requires intentional integration
UBD and designing formative flags around the way
Constantly meet needs of students naturally in PBL
Rubrics for learning not a checklist of tasks
Steven Smith
Lots of standards are performance based on what students can do
Challenge the paradigm that we need a numerical value for everything
Life does not work that way
Preparing students for a world that they will be creating
We are not helping our students by creating widgets
Are we here for our students or ourselves?
Why go through all the nonsense of teaching if we want each student to fit a single mold?
We are in the space age and students will decide if they want to go to Disney in Florida, California, or space?
We need to either start preparing our students for the future or stop pretending like we are trying
Chris Welch
Focus on standards and conversation on "How do you know?"
Where is the learning visible?
We end up with not just standards but thinking progressions on how to think at deeper cognitive rigor and DOK.
Exchange not just instruction but facilitation
YOUR CHALLENGE
Share ideas you gathered from the conversation with us on the socials.
What resonated with you?
RESOURCE MENTIONED IN SHOW
Everything can be found here - sites.google.com/view/creatingauthenticlearning/power-of-authentic-learning
Universal Constructs




![217: AI Without Freaking Out or Falling Asleep with Rebecca Bultsma
Episode Summary
In this episode, I talk with AI strategist, communicator, and ethics researcher Rebecca Bultsma.
Rebecca is known for helping people understand AI âwithout freaking out or falling asleep.â From her farm near the Montana Canada border, she brings a grounded, practical perspective to the chaos of generative AI.
We dive into misconceptions, practical use cases, the importance of skepticism, and why human connection still matters in an AI-driven world.
If youâve ever felt overwhelmed by AI or unsure where to begin, this episode is a perfect place to start.
What We Talk About
Rebeccaâs journey from communications into AI and ethics research.
The moment in 2022 when ChatGPT changed the conversation about AI.
Misconceptions: why AI is not a fad, and why it matters for everyone.
Quick wins with generative AI from reading terms & conditions to learning through NotebookLM.
Her mantra: âNever trust a large language model.â What that means and why human oversight is non-negotiable.
The risks of over-trusting AI when it feels âhuman.â
Opportunities in strategy: using AI for pattern-finding, scenario testing, and persona-building.
Practical advice for staying safe: separating personal/work accounts and turning off data training.
Why experimenting with Claude, ChatGPT, or Gemini is the best starting point.
Rebeccaâs daily workflow: from AI-powered health stacks to automations that save brainpower.
Final advice: control the controllables, start small, and build confidence step by step.
Access the Show
All platforms & past episodes:Â https://coffeeforthebrain.com/podcasts/
Direct Link to This Episode:
Listen & Subscribe:
[Apple Podcasts]Â |Â [Spotify]Â |Â [YouTube]Â |Â [Simplecast]
Resources & Links
Rebeccaâs website: rebeccabultsma.com (speaking, workshops, resources)
LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/rebecca-bultsma (active posts on AI ethics, policy, comms)
X (Twitter): @rebeccabultsma â âAI awe + rational anxietyâ stream and resource drops
TikTok: @rebeccabultsma (short takes on AI, comms, and ethics)
Instagram: @commsrebecca (communications + AI insights)
Highlighted Posts (good primers for listeners)
âPOV: Youâre the âAI ethicsâ person and not freaking out about LinkedInâs data use.â
Nuanced take on platform data and practical risk framing (great for comms leaders). LinkedIn
âNever trust an LLMâ in practice.
Threads/posts where she pushes for human review, disclosure, and trust-building. Pair with her SchoolCEO feature. Apptegy
Defining AI ethics as a philosophical puzzle.
Reflective post that shows her influences and systems lens. LinkedIn
AI learning resources roundup.
Shareable list of podcasts, newsletters, books, and courses, great on-ramp for teams. X (formerly Twitter)
Webinar: Navigating AI Tools in Schools.
Concrete strategies for K-12; sets expectations for ethical adoption and practical wins. risevision.com
Courses & Tools Mentioned:
OpenAI Academy â Free ChatGPT classes
Google AI on Coursera â AI 101 course
Anthropic Academy â Free Claude courses
NotebookLM â AI-powered research synthesis
The Boring Report
GPT - JobsGPT by SmarterX
Zapier - https://zapier.com/aiÂ
Episode Quote
âAnything you canât do well, or you feel overwhelmed by have generative AI help you. Thatâs what itâs amazing for. It can be that external brain when you need it.â
â Rebecca Bultsma
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