Uploaded April 2021 | Updated September 2026, 1 week ago
Facial recognition technology is being deployed in housing projects, homeless shelters, schools, even across entire cities—usually without much fanfare or discussion. To some, this represents a critical technology for helping vulnerable communities gain access to social services. For others, it’s a flagrant invasion of privacy and human dignity. In this episode, we speak to the advocates, technologists, and dissidents dealing with the messy consequences that come when a technology that can identify you almost anywhere (even if you’re wearing a mask) is deployed without any clear playbook for regulating or managing it.
We meet:
Eric Williams, senior staff attorney at Detroit Justice Center
Fabian Rogers, community advocate at Surveillance Technology Oversight Project
Helen Knight, founder of Tech for Social Good
Ray Bolling, president and co-founder of Eyemetric Identity Systems
Mary Sunden, executive director of the Christ Church Community Development Corporation
Credits: This episode was reported and produced by Jennifer Strong, Tate Ryan-Mosley, Emma Cillekens, and Karen Hao. We’re edited by Michael Reilly and Gideon Lichfield.
Facial recognition technology is being deployed in housing projects, homeless shelters, schools, even across entire cities—usually without much fanfare or discussion. To some, this represents a critical technology for helping vulnerable communities gain access to social services. For others, it’s a flagrant invasion of privacy and human dignity. In this episode, we speak to the advocates, technologists, and dissidents dealing with the messy consequences that come when a technology that can identify you almost anywhere (even if you’re wearing a mask) is deployed without any clear playbook for regulating or managing it.
We meet:
Eric Williams, senior staff attorney at Detroit Justice Center
Fabian Rogers, community advocate at Surveillance Technology Oversight Project
Helen Knight, founder of Tech for Social Good
Ray Bolling, president and co-founder of Eyemetric Identity Systems
Mary Sunden, executive director of the Christ Church Community Development Corporation
Credits: This episode was reported and produced by Jennifer Strong, Tate Ryan-Mosley, Emma Cillekens, and Karen Hao. We’re edited by Michael Reilly and Gideon Lichfield.
