Uploaded August 2026 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago
In this episode, we're joined by Adrian Brown, founder and CEO of Windfall Trust, for a conversation about the economic impacts of AI.
Why the economic focus (00:58)
Capturing AI's impact in macro statistics (5:03)
Planning under uncertainty (9:44)
What's driving the AI backlash (17:27)
A new social contract for the AI era (20:31)
Are governments taking AI seriously enough? (31:21)
Why AI is likely to create major wealth concentration (39:10)
Adrian Brown is the founder and CEO of Windfall Trust, a policy accelerator working to prepare governments and societies for the economic impacts of AI. Before founding Windfall, he spent two decades at the intersection of government and technology, including as the founding Executive Director of the Centre for Public Impact in London.
Additional Reading
"Canaries in the Coal Mine? Six Facts about the Recent Employment Effects of Artificial Intelligence" (Stanford Digital Economy Lab): https://digitaleconomy.stanford.edu/publication/canaries-in-the-coal-mine-six-facts-about-the-recen…
"AI as Normal Technology" (Knight First Amendment Institute): knightcolumbia.org/content/ai-as-normal-technology
"Forging a New AGI Social Contract" (Windfall Trust): windfalltrust.substack.com/p/forging-a-new-agi-social-contract
"Betting on Humans" by Anton Leicht and Dean Ball: writing.antonleicht.me/p/betting-on-humans
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In this episode, we're joined by Adrian Brown, founder and CEO of Windfall Trust, for a conversation about the economic impacts of AI.
Why the economic focus (00:58)
Capturing AI's impact in macro statistics (5:03)
Planning under uncertainty (9:44)
What's driving the AI backlash (17:27)
A new social contract for the AI era (20:31)
Are governments taking AI seriously enough? (31:21)
Why AI is likely to create major wealth concentration (39:10)
Adrian Brown is the founder and CEO of Windfall Trust, a policy accelerator working to prepare governments and societies for the economic impacts of AI. Before founding Windfall, he spent two decades at the intersection of government and technology, including as the founding Executive Director of the Centre for Public Impact in London.
Additional Reading
"Canaries in the Coal Mine? Six Facts about the Recent Employment Effects of Artificial Intelligence" (Stanford Digital Economy Lab): https://digitaleconomy.stanford.edu/publication/canaries-in-the-coal-mine-six-facts-about-the-recen…
"AI as Normal Technology" (Knight First Amendment Institute): knightcolumbia.org/content/ai-as-normal-technology
"Forging a New AGI Social Contract" (Windfall Trust): windfalltrust.substack.com/p/forging-a-new-agi-social-contract
"Betting on Humans" by Anton Leicht and Dean Ball: writing.antonleicht.me/p/betting-on-humans
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A nonpartisan institution, CSIS is the top national security think tank in the world.
Visit csis.org to find more of our work as we bring bipartisan solutions to the world's greatest challenges.
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Follow CSIS on:
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