Uploaded June 2025 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago
In this episode, Jeffrey van Leeuwen talks with adjunct philosophy & ethics professor Anthony David Vernon about the significance of postmodernism, fascism, and nationalism in today's society. Anthony explains how understanding multiple narratives helps combat dangerous ideologies and why recognizing different perspectives is crucial for meaningful discussions.
Key areas that are covered:
* The real meaning of postmodernism
* How fascism and hyper-nationalism gain traction
* The relationship between religion, science, and truth
* Practical approaches for societal reconciliation
* The challenge of fairness and historical accountability
Thank you for listening.
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*OUTLINE:*
00:00 Introduction
01:12 Defining Postmodernism & Grand Narratives
03:40 Postmodernism's Relationship with Religion & Science
11:18 Friction Between Postmodernism & Grand Narratives
13:53 Emotions & Rationality in Decision-Making
16:57 Postmodernism as a Historical Tactic
22:05 Religion Through a Postmodern Lens
31:23 Navigating Multiple Narratives & Avoiding Overload
34:34 What is Fascism, Nationalism & Nazism
49:02 Immigration Policy: Myths, Realities & Reforms
01:01:41 The Attractiveness of Nazism & Hyper-Nationalism
01:18:01 Apologies, Reparations & the Quest for Fairness
01:35:40 What Is Fair?
01:49:06 Final Thoughts & Future Hopes
*CONTACT LINKS:*
To come on the podcast, share feedback, ask a question, or reach out for any reason, visit: podcast.jeffreyvanleeuwen.com/p/contact
This episode has been co-produced by Kate van Leeuwen.
In this episode, Jeffrey van Leeuwen talks with adjunct philosophy & ethics professor Anthony David Vernon about the significance of postmodernism, fascism, and nationalism in today's society. Anthony explains how understanding multiple narratives helps combat dangerous ideologies and why recognizing different perspectives is crucial for meaningful discussions.
Key areas that are covered:
* The real meaning of postmodernism
* How fascism and hyper-nationalism gain traction
* The relationship between religion, science, and truth
* Practical approaches for societal reconciliation
* The challenge of fairness and historical accountability
Thank you for listening.
*SHOW LINKS:*
Subscribe: youtube.com/@JeffreyPvanLeeuwen
Support the Show: patreon.com/JeffreyPvanLeeuwen
Listen on Apple Podcast: apple.co/4lLpEXA
Listen on Spotify: spoti.fi/42kcOYy
Follow on X: https://x.com/RealJvanLeeuwen
Follow on Reddit: reddit.com/r/jeffreypvanleeuwen
Follow on Instagram: instagram.com/jeffreypvanleeuwen
Follow on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/jeffreypvanleeuwen
YouTube Playlist: youtube.com/playlist?list=PLOv56NTjNAeK7cUVamIPioSCsr06-vSGG
*OUTLINE:*
00:00 Introduction
01:12 Defining Postmodernism & Grand Narratives
03:40 Postmodernism's Relationship with Religion & Science
11:18 Friction Between Postmodernism & Grand Narratives
13:53 Emotions & Rationality in Decision-Making
16:57 Postmodernism as a Historical Tactic
22:05 Religion Through a Postmodern Lens
31:23 Navigating Multiple Narratives & Avoiding Overload
34:34 What is Fascism, Nationalism & Nazism
49:02 Immigration Policy: Myths, Realities & Reforms
01:01:41 The Attractiveness of Nazism & Hyper-Nationalism
01:18:01 Apologies, Reparations & the Quest for Fairness
01:35:40 What Is Fair?
01:49:06 Final Thoughts & Future Hopes
*CONTACT LINKS:*
To come on the podcast, share feedback, ask a question, or reach out for any reason, visit: podcast.jeffreyvanleeuwen.com/p/contact
This episode has been co-produced by Kate van Leeuwen.










