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The Way has helped me find calm, drop anxiety, and look forward to meditation that finally makes sense: thewayapp.com/tim
This episode is part of a series called Meditation Monday. The teacher, Henry Shukman, has been on my podcast twice before. He is one of only a few dozen masters in the world authorized to teach Sanbo Zen, and now, he’ll be your teacher.
In addition to my long-form interviews each week, every Monday I’ll bring you a short 10-minute or so meditation, which will help you for the rest of the week.
Over this four-episode series, you’ll develop a Zen toolkit to help you find greater calm, peace, and effectiveness in your daily life.
Henry’s app, The Way, has changed my life since I first started using it. Unlike other meditation apps, where you’re overwhelmed with a thousand choices, The Way is a clear step-by-step training program guided entirely by Henry. Through a logical progression, you’ll develop real skills that stick with you.
I’ve been using it daily, often twice a day, and it’s lowered my anxiety more than I thought possible.
As a listener of my podcast, you can get 30 free sessions by visiting thewayapp.com/tim and downloading the app.
Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded one billion downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
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The Way has helped me find calm, drop anxiety, and look forward to meditation that finally makes sense: thewayapp.com/tim
This episode is part of a series called Meditation Monday. The teacher, Henry Shukman, has been on my podcast twice before. He is one of only a few dozen masters in the world authorized to teach Sanbo Zen, and now, he’ll be your teacher.
In addition to my long-form interviews each week, every Monday I’ll bring you a short 10-minute or so meditation, which will help you for the rest of the week.
Over this four-episode series, you’ll develop a Zen toolkit to help you find greater calm, peace, and effectiveness in your daily life.
Henry’s app, The Way, has changed my life since I first started using it. Unlike other meditation apps, where you’re overwhelmed with a thousand choices, The Way is a clear step-by-step training program guided entirely by Henry. Through a logical progression, you’ll develop real skills that stick with you.
I’ve been using it daily, often twice a day, and it’s lowered my anxiety more than I thought possible.
As a listener of my podcast, you can get 30 free sessions by visiting thewayapp.com/tim and downloading the app.
Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded one billion downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
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![NYT Bestselling Author on Writing 200+ Childrens Books — Tish Rabe
Tish Rabe the New York Times bestselling author of more than 200 childrens books with more than 11 million copies sold. She has written for Sesame Street, Disney, PBS Kids, Curious George, Clifford, and many more. She now heads her own childrens book publishing company, Tish Rabe Books: https://www.tishrabebooks.com/
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[00:40] How an opera major became a bestselling children’s author and songwriter.
[03:29] Tish’s trashy debut on television treasure Sesame Street.
[03:53] Pitching a childhood memory to dead silence — and landing book number one.
[07:45] The value of writing a story’s ending first.
[10:04] Jim Henson: The kind, gentle giant with a mind of steel.
[11:17] Keeping kids and their parents entertained with double-level humor.
[11:58] How Tish put her music training to work with Big Bird and Oscar the Grouch.
[15:33] From nine-note auditions to signing on with Sesame Street‘s mission to level the kindergarten playing field.
[19:39] Churning out children’s books and writing bangers about animal gestation periods and lumber measurement for 3-2-1 Contact.
[23:55] The zero-rhyming genius of Joe Raposo’s “Bein’ Green” and why it works.
[27:10] Curriculum is king: Focus groups, orange Oscar, and making sure the kids aren’t lost.
[29:34] Random House rejected her book, but the late Dr. Seuss took a second look.
[34:43] Accepting the Widow Seuss’s challenge to write a book for babies in utero and ending up with a bestseller.
[38:06] The secret to perfect rhyme in Dr. Seuss’s paradigm.
[41:58] Is rhyming a part of Tish’s DNA, or did she learn it along the way?
[44:58] The time Tish transformed a planet from pizza into nickels to make her deadline.
[46:36] Has music as a mission preserved Tish’s cognition?
[51:59] What does Tish aim to do with the company she started in her 70s?
[58:10] Sometimes Apart, Always in My Heart: A military kid’s book born from a POW father’s legacy and a high-five traced on paper.
[01:02:28] Alaska the stuffed dog, financial literacy bunnies, hallucinated seagulls, and 843 acres of Central Park in 24 pages.
[01:10:04] Tish’s campaign to get free books to kids in underserved neighborhoods.
[01:11:09] Advice for aspiring children’s book authors.
[01:12:57] Tish doesn’t get derailed by writer’s block — she prepares for it.
[01:14:40] When Michelle Obama added 16 pages to a book Tish thought would be boring.
[01:16:54] Big Bird in China, 1982: One hand-painted costume, 13 days of rain, zero coffee, and a five-year-old who memorized the wrong script.
[01:21:02] Tish’s billboard.
[01:22:05] Kindness is Caring, Friendship is Sharing and other parting thoughts.
Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded one billion downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
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![How to Quiet the Ruminative Mind and Avoid The Traps of Self-Help — Tim Ferriss
This episode is a bit different, and I am in the hot seat. Dan Harris interviewed me for his show, the 10% Happier with Dan Harris podcast, and I thought it was worth sharing here. Dan is a wonderful interviewer, and we got in the zone. He is also the bestselling author of 10% Happier and Meditation for Fidgety Skeptics: A 10% Happier How-To Book.
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[00:41] The simple social secret that has me feeling better than self-help and isolation ever did.
[04:52] 70%–80% depression remission with accelerated TMS and the SAINT Protocol.
[09:25] One day of TMS + an old tuberculosis antibiotic flipped the OCD switch to near-zero.
[13:32] The pros and cons of TMS accessibility.
[18:11] Dans parallel confession: The desertification of social life under workaholism.
[22:33] Its the relationships, stupid. Evolutionary biology meets self-improvement.
[23:35] What youre optimizing for should come before how.
[25:30] Health optimization made personal.
[28:23] Intermittent fasting: Just changing when I eat has been the single biggest needle-mover for my bloodwork.
[30:28] Working with your doctors: Replicate tests, respect diurnal cycles, and resist the four-drug opening salvo.
[35:12] AI as health co-pilot: Use LLMs for medical literacy and contraindication checks — but always fact-check one tool with another.
[40:35] Full-body MRIs: Over 40, you will find something. But Dans wife (a doctor) says skip em — and Rumi might have agreed with her.
[44:50] How my actual daily life compares to a poorly programmed Roomba.
[47:13] Jerry Seinfelds grand unified life theory: Lift weights and do TM. Thats pretty much it.
[49:47] The No Book: 800 pages, six years deep, co-written with Neil Strauss — because even the most accomplished people cant say no.
[54:28] I cant do the life Tetris. Martha Becks masterclass in declining without defending.
[58:33] Rocks, gravel, and sand: How to protect your life-changing commitments from death by a thousand small distractions.
[1:05:11] Three years without social media on my phone, fear-setting as clarity, and two hours of daily focus as the new top 1%.
[1:09:23] Coyote: My card game with Exploding Kittens, and why I only choose projects that let me win even if they fail.
[1:14:13] Parting thoughts.
Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded one billion downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
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