Uploaded January 2026 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago
Billy Corgan sits down with Penn Jillette for a sprawling, razor-sharp conversation that moves from magic to morality. What begins as a discussion about deception quickly becomes something deeper: why consent turns lying into art, and why Penn proudly calls himself an “honest liar.” Penn traces his path from a strict Christian upbringing to agnosticism and atheism, shaped by mentors like James Randi, a teenage crisis of faith in science, and a romantic (and very real) stint as a street performer inspired by Bob Dylan. Along the way: clown college, illegal busking, Vegas stages, and a 50-year creative partnership with Teller performing magic without disrespecting the audience.
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Billy Corgan sits down with Penn Jillette for a sprawling, razor-sharp conversation that moves from magic to morality. What begins as a discussion about deception quickly becomes something deeper: why consent turns lying into art, and why Penn proudly calls himself an “honest liar.” Penn traces his path from a strict Christian upbringing to agnosticism and atheism, shaped by mentors like James Randi, a teenage crisis of faith in science, and a romantic (and very real) stint as a street performer inspired by Bob Dylan. Along the way: clown college, illegal busking, Vegas stages, and a 50-year creative partnership with Teller performing magic without disrespecting the audience.
#PennJillette #billycorgan #pennandteller
Listen to the Show on all Podcast Apps "The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan" podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-magnificent-others-with-billy-corgan/id1793783665?i=1000689358669
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