Uploaded July 2026 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago
Did politicians use the establishment, or was it the other way around? Why has Pakistan remained trapped in the same political cycle? And can the country finally move toward a stable democratic system?
In this episode, TCM's Wahid Ali sits down with former Federal Minister Muhammad Ali Durrani to discuss civil-military relations, political history, democracy, and the future of Pakistan's political system.
00:00:00 - Intro
00:02:17 - Why Were Past Generations More Politically Aware?
00:07:07 - Why Pakistani Youth Became a Part of Afghan Jihad?
00:10:45 - How the Afghan Jihad Affected Pakistan?
00:17:10 - What Was Pakistan’s Motive Behind Afghan Jihad?
00:20:59 - How Pakistan Got Involved in the Kashmir Movement?
00:26:29 - Were There Training Camps Inside Pakistan?
00:27:29 - What Is the Reason Behind Protests in Azad Kashmir?
00:39:21 - What Is the Reason Behind Protests in Azad Kashmir?
00:41:31 - Who Is Really Responsible for Pakistan’s Situation?
00:45:25 - How Has Civil-Military Relation Evolved?
00:53:29 - Are Only Politicians Responsible for Crises in Pakistan?
00:58:18 - Who Truly Rules Pakistan?
01:01:10 - Can Governance Be Left to the Politicians Only?
01:06:25 - What Are the Qualities of a Good Democratic Leader?
01:12:11 - Has Pakistan the Ability to Produce Good Politicians?
01:19:01 - Can Politicians Truly Control the Establishment?
01:26:07 - Does a Government Always Need the Support of the Establishment?
01:29:08 - Why Are State Institutions Against Imran Khan?
01:36:17 - What Is the Ultimate Solution to the Political Crisis?
01:42:22 - Conclusion
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We will take you where the real stories happen but often go untold and unseen in the shortest possible time having more information. Unlike the traditional media, TCM aims at sharing diverse stories across multi-platforms aimed at the people who consume news through mobile and social stream. We take up the challenge in the digital arena to present the news in the most imaginative and innovative ways.
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Did politicians use the establishment, or was it the other way around? Why has Pakistan remained trapped in the same political cycle? And can the country finally move toward a stable democratic system?
In this episode, TCM's Wahid Ali sits down with former Federal Minister Muhammad Ali Durrani to discuss civil-military relations, political history, democracy, and the future of Pakistan's political system.
00:00:00 - Intro
00:02:17 - Why Were Past Generations More Politically Aware?
00:07:07 - Why Pakistani Youth Became a Part of Afghan Jihad?
00:10:45 - How the Afghan Jihad Affected Pakistan?
00:17:10 - What Was Pakistan’s Motive Behind Afghan Jihad?
00:20:59 - How Pakistan Got Involved in the Kashmir Movement?
00:26:29 - Were There Training Camps Inside Pakistan?
00:27:29 - What Is the Reason Behind Protests in Azad Kashmir?
00:39:21 - What Is the Reason Behind Protests in Azad Kashmir?
00:41:31 - Who Is Really Responsible for Pakistan’s Situation?
00:45:25 - How Has Civil-Military Relation Evolved?
00:53:29 - Are Only Politicians Responsible for Crises in Pakistan?
00:58:18 - Who Truly Rules Pakistan?
01:01:10 - Can Governance Be Left to the Politicians Only?
01:06:25 - What Are the Qualities of a Good Democratic Leader?
01:12:11 - Has Pakistan the Ability to Produce Good Politicians?
01:19:01 - Can Politicians Truly Control the Establishment?
01:26:07 - Does a Government Always Need the Support of the Establishment?
01:29:08 - Why Are State Institutions Against Imran Khan?
01:36:17 - What Is the Ultimate Solution to the Political Crisis?
01:42:22 - Conclusion
___________________________________
TCM’s journey since 2017 has been about telling stories that people want to hear, which mainstream media has been neglecting for decades. We want to disrupt the status quo by delivering engaging content that empowers impassioned voices and impacts social change. We are defined by integrity, grit, and ingenuity, and this is what drives us.
Support independent journalism in Pakistan and get exclusive access to the full-length version of our videos: patreon.com/thecentrummedia
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Subscribe to TCM: bit.ly/2Tu6AkW
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Website: thecentrummedia.com
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About The Centrum Media
The Centrum Media (TCM) has the credit of Pakistan’s first digital news network specializing in visual storytelling. Being a premier online platform, TCM strives to enhance the online experience of the new generation, ranging from hard news to feature stories. TCM creates original content and curates simultaneously from multiple sources.
We will take you where the real stories happen but often go untold and unseen in the shortest possible time having more information. Unlike the traditional media, TCM aims at sharing diverse stories across multi-platforms aimed at the people who consume news through mobile and social stream. We take up the challenge in the digital arena to present the news in the most imaginative and innovative ways.
Your on-the-go lifestyle forces us to bring the news directly to your pocket devices.
