Uploaded March 2026 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago
In this episode of The Defiant Podcast, Camila Russo sits down with Jing Wang to discuss how Optimism is evolving and why the debate over what counts as a “real” Ethereum L2 might be missing the point.
Jing argues that the most important question isn’t whether a chain is an L1, L2, or sidechain. It’s whether the architecture actually serves users and real-world use cases.
“If it looks like an L1, we’ll build that. If it looks like an L2, we’ll build that.”
In the conversation we cover:
- Why Optimism now sees itself as a network of blockchains (the Superchain)
• The debate around Ethereum L2 decentralization sparked by Vitalik Buterin
• Why institutions are already using decentralized rails
• Why ZK proofs are the future
• And why Jing believes finance inevitably moves on-chain
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In this episode of The Defiant Podcast, Camila Russo sits down with Jing Wang to discuss how Optimism is evolving and why the debate over what counts as a “real” Ethereum L2 might be missing the point.
Jing argues that the most important question isn’t whether a chain is an L1, L2, or sidechain. It’s whether the architecture actually serves users and real-world use cases.
“If it looks like an L1, we’ll build that. If it looks like an L2, we’ll build that.”
In the conversation we cover:
- Why Optimism now sees itself as a network of blockchains (the Superchain)
• The debate around Ethereum L2 decentralization sparked by Vitalik Buterin
• Why institutions are already using decentralized rails
• Why ZK proofs are the future
• And why Jing believes finance inevitably moves on-chain
Nexo is a premier digital assets wealth platform that helps clients build, manage, and preserve their wealth through advanced interest-generating products, crypto-backed credit, advanced trading tools, and 24/7 client care. Get started at nexo.com/defiant
Your Web3 product deserves solid payment infrastructure. Global on/off-ramps, custom APIs, and DeFi connectivity trusted by the biggest names in crypto: [mercuryo.io]
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