homerfunky | OoT - Bow early without longshot @homerfunky | Uploaded September 2020 | Updated October 2024, 9 hours ago.
This video presents an improved strat to get the bow early in forest temple that don't require the longshot. The previous strat can be found here: youtube.com/watch?v=Sv_gWXbkKcg
Skipping longshot makes this strat usable in many more speedrunning categories.
Yesterday, I posted a theory video of this strat (youtube.com/watch?v=lww6nAXgJAs) where I wanted to use double bomb push combined with HESS in order to clip through the wall and be out of bounds while having the door opened. Unfortunately, I was not able to get in practice. After discussions with other members of the community, Dannyb suggested me to use a hammer combined with triple bomb push to have more margin for the trick, and it turns out that it worked !
After that, the first idea I got was to hover all the way up to the bow platform and closing the door, but Scurty showed me an old strat from ZFG where he instead uses hookshot jump on the chest instead of hovering. At the time ZFG made the video, it was only theoretical because there was no known way to get out of bounds near the door, which is what I got in this video.
Once the door is closed, it is needed to void out to reload the room and spawn the stalfos fight to get the bow. The out of bounds clip to void can be made with the hammer as well (which don't use explosives).
At the end, the strat should save more than a minute. As for bomb count, in a TAS setup, it should use 1 more bomb than the classic route. In speedruns, it should use 2 more bombs than the classic route (because no ground jump in blocks room from doors).
Lastly, during my testings for bomb push, we can highlight that I also almost got the out of bounds to work using double bomb push (1.04 units away): youtu.be/Z4w1-YpeUtI which would save one explosive. Moreover, I also almost got the trick to work with triple bomb push without hover boots, but I don't think it's possible (it was roughly 2-3 units away).
Special thanks to Dannyb for the hammer recoil idea.
Special thanks to Scurty and ZFG for ideas and small improvements made in this strat.
This video presents an improved strat to get the bow early in forest temple that don't require the longshot. The previous strat can be found here: youtube.com/watch?v=Sv_gWXbkKcg
Skipping longshot makes this strat usable in many more speedrunning categories.
Yesterday, I posted a theory video of this strat (youtube.com/watch?v=lww6nAXgJAs) where I wanted to use double bomb push combined with HESS in order to clip through the wall and be out of bounds while having the door opened. Unfortunately, I was not able to get in practice. After discussions with other members of the community, Dannyb suggested me to use a hammer combined with triple bomb push to have more margin for the trick, and it turns out that it worked !
After that, the first idea I got was to hover all the way up to the bow platform and closing the door, but Scurty showed me an old strat from ZFG where he instead uses hookshot jump on the chest instead of hovering. At the time ZFG made the video, it was only theoretical because there was no known way to get out of bounds near the door, which is what I got in this video.
Once the door is closed, it is needed to void out to reload the room and spawn the stalfos fight to get the bow. The out of bounds clip to void can be made with the hammer as well (which don't use explosives).
At the end, the strat should save more than a minute. As for bomb count, in a TAS setup, it should use 1 more bomb than the classic route. In speedruns, it should use 2 more bombs than the classic route (because no ground jump in blocks room from doors).
Lastly, during my testings for bomb push, we can highlight that I also almost got the out of bounds to work using double bomb push (1.04 units away): youtu.be/Z4w1-YpeUtI which would save one explosive. Moreover, I also almost got the trick to work with triple bomb push without hover boots, but I don't think it's possible (it was roughly 2-3 units away).
Special thanks to Dannyb for the hammer recoil idea.
Special thanks to Scurty and ZFG for ideas and small improvements made in this strat.
