Uploaded August 2026 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago

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Last month, OpenAI confirmed that an unreleased model had hacked into Hugging Face in order to obtain answers to an exam it was given. Scenarios that used to play out in sci-fi movies suddenly seem very real.

Miles Brundage joins Tracy Alloway and Joe Weisenthal on the Odd Lots podcast to talk about why his non-profit advocates for third-party auditing of AI models and why a kill switch may not be sufficient if things go wrong. Listen wherever you get your podcasts
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