Uploaded April 2026 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago
On today's sponsored episode we talk with David Gee, CEO at Curvium, a systems integrator and VAR. David holds thoughtful opinions about network automation and orchestration, how such platforms are to be built, and the impact AI is having on network automation.
We dig into how AI fundamentally changes how we interact with systems, and how the role of network engineer is shifting from manually manipulating config to becoming a workflow engineer or process engineer.
We also discuss how the foundation of a trusted orchestration system still relies on established tools, including templating (automating the keyboard), maintaining a meaningful source of truth, implementing version control, and utilizing modern monitoring and telemetry feedback loops.
Last but not least, David introduces CurvOS, a distributed communication system built on NATS.io. This architecture is designed to implement zero-trust and micro-segmentation for AI-driven automation, acting as a gated interface that allows LLMs to interact safely with network infrastructure while strictly enforcing guardrails.
Curvium - curvium.com
Secure Campus Network Architecture - content.curvium.com/secure-campus
David Gee on LinkedIn - linkedin.com/in/davedotdev
Heavy Networking is the flagship show of the Packet Pushers network. Visit our website to find more great networking and technology podcasts, along with tutorial videos, the Human Infrastructure newsletter, and loads more resources for building your IT career. packetpushers.net
On today's sponsored episode we talk with David Gee, CEO at Curvium, a systems integrator and VAR. David holds thoughtful opinions about network automation and orchestration, how such platforms are to be built, and the impact AI is having on network automation.
We dig into how AI fundamentally changes how we interact with systems, and how the role of network engineer is shifting from manually manipulating config to becoming a workflow engineer or process engineer.
We also discuss how the foundation of a trusted orchestration system still relies on established tools, including templating (automating the keyboard), maintaining a meaningful source of truth, implementing version control, and utilizing modern monitoring and telemetry feedback loops.
Last but not least, David introduces CurvOS, a distributed communication system built on NATS.io. This architecture is designed to implement zero-trust and micro-segmentation for AI-driven automation, acting as a gated interface that allows LLMs to interact safely with network infrastructure while strictly enforcing guardrails.
Curvium - curvium.com
Secure Campus Network Architecture - content.curvium.com/secure-campus
David Gee on LinkedIn - linkedin.com/in/davedotdev
Heavy Networking is the flagship show of the Packet Pushers network. Visit our website to find more great networking and technology podcasts, along with tutorial videos, the Human Infrastructure newsletter, and loads more resources for building your IT career. packetpushers.net










