Uploaded January 2026 | Updated September 2026, 22 hours ago
New @greenpillnet pod out today! 🌐
In this episode of the Network Nations mini-series, host Felix Beer is joined by Helena Rong, Assistant Professor at New York University Shanghai, to explore SeeDAO as a real-world case study of a proto Network Nation.
They unpack how SeeDAO evolved from a Web3 startup into a translocal, diasporic community rooted in Daoist philosophy, kinship, and the pursuit of a “good life.”
The conversation dives into co-presence, emergence, non-coercive governance, social ledgers, on-chain identity, and how SeeDAO blends digital infrastructure with physical gathering from online town halls to rural pop-up communities in China.
A rich, grounded discussion on how culture, values, and practice not just tooling shape the future of Network Nations, and what bottom-up community governance can look like beyond the Western DAO paradigm.
🌱 greenpill.network
🌐 networknations.network
🐦 @owocki
@greenpillnet
https://x.com/felix_beer
https://x.com/helena__rong
https://seedao.xyz/
Helena’s work on SeeDAO:
papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5731428
⏱️ Timestamps
00:00 – From theory to practice: proto Network Nations
01:10 – Introducing SeeDAO as a case study
02:19 – Digital policy for global nomads
03:20 – Welcoming Helena Rong
04:26 – Helena’s research on SeeDAO
05:42 – SeeDAO as a Chinese-speaking DAO
08:00 – From startup to community
09:45 – COVID, isolation & diasporic connection
11:46 – What does a “good life” mean in SeeDAO?
12:30 – Daoist philosophy & Web3
13:40 – Co-presence as the foundation of community
14:55 – Emergence & non-governance as governance
16:23 – Wandering (xiaoyao) as freedom
18:09 – Culture vs tooling in Web3 communities
19:30 – Day-to-day practices inside SeeDAO
20:18 – On-chain onboarding & participation
22:32 – Reputation, contribution & governance tokens
24:38 – Blockchain as a social ledger
26:34 – Is SeeDAO a proto Network Nation?
28:31 – Translocality & offline gatherings
30:32 – Digital nomad week & rural revitalization
32:51 – DAO as scaffolding for real communities
34:48 – Instrumental vs value-driven governance
36:53 – Sovereignty, China & parallel worlds
39:02 – Network Nations alongside nation-states
41:21 – Digital nomads & rural China
43:41 – Co-presence across villagers, nomads & DAOs
45:52 – Integration, not exit
48:00 – Interoperability between communities
50:13 – Lessons from SeeDAO for Network Nations
52:13 – Helena’s research & where to find her work
53:10 – Closing thoughts
New @greenpillnet pod out today! 🌐
In this episode of the Network Nations mini-series, host Felix Beer is joined by Helena Rong, Assistant Professor at New York University Shanghai, to explore SeeDAO as a real-world case study of a proto Network Nation.
They unpack how SeeDAO evolved from a Web3 startup into a translocal, diasporic community rooted in Daoist philosophy, kinship, and the pursuit of a “good life.”
The conversation dives into co-presence, emergence, non-coercive governance, social ledgers, on-chain identity, and how SeeDAO blends digital infrastructure with physical gathering from online town halls to rural pop-up communities in China.
A rich, grounded discussion on how culture, values, and practice not just tooling shape the future of Network Nations, and what bottom-up community governance can look like beyond the Western DAO paradigm.
🌱 greenpill.network
🌐 networknations.network
🐦 @owocki
@greenpillnet
https://x.com/felix_beer
https://x.com/helena__rong
https://seedao.xyz/
Helena’s work on SeeDAO:
papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5731428
⏱️ Timestamps
00:00 – From theory to practice: proto Network Nations
01:10 – Introducing SeeDAO as a case study
02:19 – Digital policy for global nomads
03:20 – Welcoming Helena Rong
04:26 – Helena’s research on SeeDAO
05:42 – SeeDAO as a Chinese-speaking DAO
08:00 – From startup to community
09:45 – COVID, isolation & diasporic connection
11:46 – What does a “good life” mean in SeeDAO?
12:30 – Daoist philosophy & Web3
13:40 – Co-presence as the foundation of community
14:55 – Emergence & non-governance as governance
16:23 – Wandering (xiaoyao) as freedom
18:09 – Culture vs tooling in Web3 communities
19:30 – Day-to-day practices inside SeeDAO
20:18 – On-chain onboarding & participation
22:32 – Reputation, contribution & governance tokens
24:38 – Blockchain as a social ledger
26:34 – Is SeeDAO a proto Network Nation?
28:31 – Translocality & offline gatherings
30:32 – Digital nomad week & rural revitalization
32:51 – DAO as scaffolding for real communities
34:48 – Instrumental vs value-driven governance
36:53 – Sovereignty, China & parallel worlds
39:02 – Network Nations alongside nation-states
41:21 – Digital nomads & rural China
43:41 – Co-presence across villagers, nomads & DAOs
45:52 – Integration, not exit
48:00 – Interoperability between communities
50:13 – Lessons from SeeDAO for Network Nations
52:13 – Helena’s research & where to find her work
53:10 – Closing thoughts
