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Nicholas Lefevre was in-house counsel for Commodore under Jack Tramiel during the time of the Commodore 64, then in-house counsel for Atari after Jack Tramiel bought it.
This interview took place April 10 2015.
Teaser quotes:
"Particularly with Jack Tramiel, he was willing to give you enough rope to hang yourself. He was not a micromanager."
"At one point I think we had 160 or so collection lawsuits against us in the initial Atari years."
"I think really happily back on my Commodore times, less so on the Atari ones."
"When you made a computer, made it cheap, shipped it out, and sold it, that was perfect for Jack."
Nicholas Lefevre was in-house counsel for Commodore under Jack Tramiel during the time of the Commodore 64, then in-house counsel for Atari after Jack Tramiel bought it.
This interview took place April 10 2015.
Teaser quotes:
"Particularly with Jack Tramiel, he was willing to give you enough rope to hang yourself. He was not a micromanager."
"At one point I think we had 160 or so collection lawsuits against us in the initial Atari years."
"I think really happily back on my Commodore times, less so on the Atari ones."
"When you made a computer, made it cheap, shipped it out, and sold it, that was perfect for Jack."





![Gerri Brioso: Halftime Battlin Bands, Coco-Notes, Movie Musical Madness — interview
Gerri Brioso is part of The Dovetail Group, a company that created three children’s games for the Atari 400/800 and Commodore 64 computers. All three games were released in 1984: they were Halftime Battlin Bands, Coco-Notes, and Movie Musical Madness, all of which were released by CBS software.
Wikipedia says These games are notable as they represent some of the earliest examples of the music management subgenre of music video games. The games were also notable because each of those games included a plastic record album, playable on a phonograph, which served as the games’ instruction manuals. The characters in the games and records — Swivel Hips, Wahoo, and Mr. Bass Man — made up a fictional band called The Jazz Scats.
This interview occurred on July 30 and 31, 2015.
Check the show notes at AtariPodcast.com for a great picture of the Jazz Scats, and the full audio from all three game records. In fact, there are two versions of each record — the versions that I digitized from the records, and the versions that Gerri sent me from the master recordings. The lyrics are different!
Teaser quotes
“They made it doubly hard for us because they suddenly wanted us to not just create for the Atari platform, but to also create for the Commodore platform. So the work became double ... and suddenly deadlines were not being met.”
“Rich had to hold me back because my hands were going around the computer programmer’s throat. I thought I would kill him. ... Where’s the backup? He said, ‘I was just getting ready to back it up.’ I was like, “You didn’t back it up in stages? What, are you crazy?!”
Links:
Brioso’s web site: http://www.richardfreitas.com/Richard_Freitas_Music/Home.html
Wikipedia on The Dovetail Group: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dovetail_Group
Jazz Scats record albums: https://archive.org/details/@savetz?and[]=jazz%20scats
Photo of the Jazz Scats: https://archive.org/details/Coconotes Gerri Brioso: Halftime Battlin Bands, Coco-Notes, Movie Musical Madness — interview](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/IRrQqo1AvpM/mqdefault.jpg)




