Uploaded May 2026 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago
Evren Odcikin joins Marina and Nabra to unpack new play development as a site of cultural translation, experimentation, and refusal, exploring Middle Eastern, North African, and Southwest Asian dramaturgies and artistic processes. Kunafa and Shay is a podcast produced for HowlRound Theatre Commons by
co-hosts Nabra Nelson and Marina Johnson. Kunafa and Shay discusses and
analyzes contemporary and historical Middle Eastern and North African
(MENA) and Southwest Asian and North African (SWANA) theatre from across
the region.
Kunafa and Shay highlights MENA/SWANA plays and theatremakers,
spotlights community-engaged work in the region and diaspora, and
analyzes the past, present, and future of MENA/SWANA theatre in the
United States and beyond. Theatre artists and scholars Nabra Nelson and
Marina Johnson bring their own perspectives, research, and special
guests in order to start a dialogue and encourage further learning and
discussion.
The name, Kunafa and Shay, invites you into the discussion in the best
way we know how: with complex and delicious sweets like kunafa, and
perfectly warm tea (or, in Arabic, shay). Kunafa and Shay is a place to
share experiences, discuss ideas, and sometimes engage with our
differences. In each country in the region, you’ll find kunafa made
differently. In that way, we also lean into the diversity, complexity,
and robust flavors of MENA/SWANA theatre.
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Evren Odcikin joins Marina and Nabra to unpack new play development as a site of cultural translation, experimentation, and refusal, exploring Middle Eastern, North African, and Southwest Asian dramaturgies and artistic processes. Kunafa and Shay is a podcast produced for HowlRound Theatre Commons by
co-hosts Nabra Nelson and Marina Johnson. Kunafa and Shay discusses and
analyzes contemporary and historical Middle Eastern and North African
(MENA) and Southwest Asian and North African (SWANA) theatre from across
the region.
Kunafa and Shay highlights MENA/SWANA plays and theatremakers,
spotlights community-engaged work in the region and diaspora, and
analyzes the past, present, and future of MENA/SWANA theatre in the
United States and beyond. Theatre artists and scholars Nabra Nelson and
Marina Johnson bring their own perspectives, research, and special
guests in order to start a dialogue and encourage further learning and
discussion.
The name, Kunafa and Shay, invites you into the discussion in the best
way we know how: with complex and delicious sweets like kunafa, and
perfectly warm tea (or, in Arabic, shay). Kunafa and Shay is a place to
share experiences, discuss ideas, and sometimes engage with our
differences. In each country in the region, you’ll find kunafa made
differently. In that way, we also lean into the diversity, complexity,
and robust flavors of MENA/SWANA theatre.
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for information about our collection and use of personal data for
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![A Conversation with Gelsey Bell—TORCHES: 30+ Years of Downtown Performance
TORCHES continues with a conversation with the multidisciplinary performance creator, composer, and vocalist Gelsey Bell. She is a core member of ensembles thingNY and Varispeed.
Gelsey Bell is a Brooklyn-based multidisciplinary performance creator, composer, and vocalist. Her recent works include the experimental opera mɔɹnɪŋ [morning//mourning] (2023), commissioned by the HERE Arts Center and presented in the Prototype Festival; Cairns (2020), a soundwalk for Green-Wood Cemetery; the musical one-act Archaeopteris (2025), commissioned by Wet Ink; and thingNY’s collaboratively written opera Mouthful (2024). She is the Co-Artistic Director of thingNY and Varispeed. She has released multiple albums, including the recent mɔɹnɪŋ [morning//mourning], Skylighght,and Heads Together. She has received awards from the Foundation for Contemporary Arts, Opera America, the Aaron Copland Fund for Music, the Japan Foundation, NYSCA, and others. Performance highlights also include Dave Malloy’s Natasha, Pierre, & the Great Comet of 1812 (Broadway) and Ghost Quartet, Robert Ashley’s Foreign Experiences and Improvement, Darius Jones’s Samesoul Maker, Alaina Ferris’s The Lydian Gale Parr, Aaron Siegel’s Rainbird, and other works by Jay Afrisando, Kate Soper, Tomomi Adachi, Brent Michael Davids, and others. A Conversation with Gelsey Bell—TORCHES: 30+ Years of Downtown Performance](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/WWYTdtbDNus/mqdefault.jpg)

