Uploaded November 2023 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago
Join Tillie Treadwell and Michael Waterman on a Thanksgiving- themed journey into Native American religion, hear their own riveting experiences with the paranormal and religion, and discover the intersection between human nature and religious beliefs. Michael opens up about his own Thanksgiving knowledge, related social beliefs and his family's delicious, unique stuffing recipe which contains ingredients from several cultures, and Tillie relates with her own tales from teams past. With the unexpected, unusual ending and high energy of the presenters, this is sure to be a talk to remember!
Note from Tillie:
I wasn't sure if I "should" include this, but I do think that it is important and relevant upon reflection. This was my first time using Zoom as a host, as I'm sure you can tell about midway through. The footage I have is from screen recording on my device; I didn't know that I had to upgrade to the Pro subscription in order to record, nor did I know that it was going to end the session and cut us off.
After that happened, which is where this footage ends, I realized my mistake and immediately upgraded. Upon logging back in, I hit record and all seemed well. Michael rejoined me and we continued the interview. A moment into this, though, I saw a single orb emerge from the background of his side of the video, and it flew slowly up, circled around to the other side of his head and then went into his hat.
I refuse to think that everything is paranormal. Sometimes it's just dust, you know? I let it go, bringing no attention to it. A little over halfway through, what I assume is the same orb came out of his hat, on the other side, and floated lazily off screen to the right side. Again, I let it go because we were having a great time and it could just be dust...I thought.
Immediately after the whole show, I set to editing for release today. I was going to have it up by 8 a.m. But...I was confronted with the stark reality that though my Zoom had told me it was recording the whole time, the footage that I received was only that of myself in silence for an hour and four minutes! Just sitting in my chair, me, by myself, reacting and talking to no one. There was no audio in the files of any kind that I was sent, and no recording at all of Michael, in audio or visual format.
What happened? Was it an epic glitch? Or did the orbs have something to do with sabotaging Michael's half of the recording?
I have no answers, only questions. I don't claim to know or believe either way, since, as I see, there is equal likelihood and circumstantial evidence for both.
I have had paranormal occurrences when recording with other people, though, according to some of those who have filmed with me over the years. Is this related...?
Well, paranormal ants are contagious (youtu.be/lmK5f6AVePc) so maybe. Again, I don't claim to know in this case; I'm only offering information. I sincerely apologize for this mishap, be it paranormal or personal because of a mistake I have made. I've tested Zoom several times now and cannot repeat the event, and I have no idea what happened but I will do my best to ensure it won't happen again.
In any case, please do consider supporting my dear friend Michael Waterman. Here are his links, and his brief statement about his collection project:
"Donations to the Center for Ancient knowledge, we are trying to collect tails stories from villages ancient times before Christianity people have from all over the world stories of ancient beliefs, and there are things that perhaps the world is forgotten that maybe your family does or his family or hers does, and there are traditions that go back before the Roman. Before Christianity so that we know what our ancestors might’ve known it’s true, that I have mostly northern European and English relatives but I wanna know more about what they believed especially the Polish part of me. I don’t know what they thought of. I don’t know what they believed, and I need to know."
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Join Tillie Treadwell and Michael Waterman on a Thanksgiving- themed journey into Native American religion, hear their own riveting experiences with the paranormal and religion, and discover the intersection between human nature and religious beliefs. Michael opens up about his own Thanksgiving knowledge, related social beliefs and his family's delicious, unique stuffing recipe which contains ingredients from several cultures, and Tillie relates with her own tales from teams past. With the unexpected, unusual ending and high energy of the presenters, this is sure to be a talk to remember!
Note from Tillie:
I wasn't sure if I "should" include this, but I do think that it is important and relevant upon reflection. This was my first time using Zoom as a host, as I'm sure you can tell about midway through. The footage I have is from screen recording on my device; I didn't know that I had to upgrade to the Pro subscription in order to record, nor did I know that it was going to end the session and cut us off.
After that happened, which is where this footage ends, I realized my mistake and immediately upgraded. Upon logging back in, I hit record and all seemed well. Michael rejoined me and we continued the interview. A moment into this, though, I saw a single orb emerge from the background of his side of the video, and it flew slowly up, circled around to the other side of his head and then went into his hat.
I refuse to think that everything is paranormal. Sometimes it's just dust, you know? I let it go, bringing no attention to it. A little over halfway through, what I assume is the same orb came out of his hat, on the other side, and floated lazily off screen to the right side. Again, I let it go because we were having a great time and it could just be dust...I thought.
Immediately after the whole show, I set to editing for release today. I was going to have it up by 8 a.m. But...I was confronted with the stark reality that though my Zoom had told me it was recording the whole time, the footage that I received was only that of myself in silence for an hour and four minutes! Just sitting in my chair, me, by myself, reacting and talking to no one. There was no audio in the files of any kind that I was sent, and no recording at all of Michael, in audio or visual format.
What happened? Was it an epic glitch? Or did the orbs have something to do with sabotaging Michael's half of the recording?
I have no answers, only questions. I don't claim to know or believe either way, since, as I see, there is equal likelihood and circumstantial evidence for both.
I have had paranormal occurrences when recording with other people, though, according to some of those who have filmed with me over the years. Is this related...?
Well, paranormal ants are contagious (youtu.be/lmK5f6AVePc) so maybe. Again, I don't claim to know in this case; I'm only offering information. I sincerely apologize for this mishap, be it paranormal or personal because of a mistake I have made. I've tested Zoom several times now and cannot repeat the event, and I have no idea what happened but I will do my best to ensure it won't happen again.
In any case, please do consider supporting my dear friend Michael Waterman. Here are his links, and his brief statement about his collection project:
"Donations to the Center for Ancient knowledge, we are trying to collect tails stories from villages ancient times before Christianity people have from all over the world stories of ancient beliefs, and there are things that perhaps the world is forgotten that maybe your family does or his family or hers does, and there are traditions that go back before the Roman. Before Christianity so that we know what our ancestors might’ve known it’s true, that I have mostly northern European and English relatives but I wanna know more about what they believed especially the Polish part of me. I don’t know what they thought of. I don’t know what they believed, and I need to know."
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516.650.3691
mkwaterman@icloud.com
