Uploaded October 2020 | Updated September 2026, 2 days ago

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We are a father and son duo interested in narratives. Stories form the basis of our identity, stories compel action, and narratives are civilization.

In this podcast, we talk about our love of stories, a trip to Oxford, stories about progress, and what we learned about narratives from UNC-Chapel Hill Professor Christopher Armitage, a man who himself was taught by Tolkein and Lewis.

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