Uploaded February 2025 | Updated September 2026, 1 day ago

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In Romans 13:1–7, Paul tells Christians to submit to governing authorities, even calling these authorities “ministers of God.” But does this mean we must always submit? Or, if there are exceptions, what are they and how do we know? Kaitlyn Schiess joins us to talk about this frequently debated text.

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Disclaimer: Logos values thoughtful and engaging discussions on important biblical topics. However, the views and interpretations presented in this episode are those of the individuals speaking and do not necessarily reflect the official position of Logos. We recognize that Christians may hold different perspectives on this passage, and we welcome diverse engagement and respectful dialogue.

00:00 Introduction to Romans 13
00:26 Show Introduction and Host Welcome
01:02 Guest Introduction: Kaitlin Chess
01:56 Context of Romans 13
03:06 Reading Romans 13:1-7
04:20 Debate Over Submission to Authorities
05:40 Different Interpretations of Romans 13
06:16 Historical and Theological Perspectives
08:40 Biblical Context and Broader Theology
13:08 Practical Implications for Modern Christians
14:54 Paul's Reasoning and Commands
22:34 Government as God's Servant
25:16 The Role of Government in Biblical Context
26:17 Debates on Historical Context
27:30 Paul's Perspective on Government Power
29:06 Interpreting Paul's Instructions
33:06 Balancing Obedience and Civil Disobedience
42:00 Practical Applications and Teaching
47:55 Conclusion and Final Thoughts