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| Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!! - Piston Honda 2 [0:39.97] (Original Resolution) @zallard1 | Updated October 2024, 3 hours ago.
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Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!! - Piston Honda 2 [0:39.97] (Original Resolution) @zallard1
![Mike Tysons Punch-Out!! - Piston Honda 2 [0:39.97] (Original Resolution)](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ONGOXtSkuHQ/hqdefault.jpg "Mike Tysons Punch-Out!! - Piston Honda 2 [0:39.97] (Original Resolution)
Mike Tysons Punch-Out!! - Piston Honda 2 [0:39.97] (Original Resolution)")
![Punch Out!! (Wii) - Mr. Sandman [0:32.46]](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ONeYeEsuydQ/hqdefault.jpg "Punch Out!! (Wii) - Mr. Sandman [0:32.46]
EDIT: Ive improved this record to match the TAS! Its now a 31.98, and can be seen here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itQv-OGtNs4
This is a fairly new strategy, courtesy of Mysteryman (aka Frame by Frame Animation on yt). It is a pain to even complete the strategy once, because there is a ton going on here with every punch Mac throws.
First off, this fight is played in Champions Mode, which is a toggle-able option to make every punch from the opponent knock you down in a single hit. This is used to take a knockdown immediately at the start of phase 1 to advance a bit in his move script. You also need to do *2* blocked punches in order to make him attack immediately as you get up from your knockdown (I have no idea why its like this lol).
Once you get up from the knockdown, you cancel the first punch Sandman attempts to throw (you can buffer this punch for some reason?!?) and then counter his quick overhead punch for a star. Then comes the extremely important part; you need to cancel his Stand Still overhead punch with a slightly delayed blocked punch, then do ANOTHER very slightly delayed punch. This 2nd punch is mandatorily frame perfect, and is timed in such a way that his normal Boo taunt is actually AN INSTANT KNOCKDOWN when you buffer a star punch off of it!
In the next phase, the idea is the same, but a bit more hectic, because now you have to counter his first punch for a star, then do *4* slightly delayed move cancels, with the last one needing to be frame perfect to get the same instant knockdown punch.
In the final phase, you need to have gotten there fast enough in order for this strategy to work, since he decides his attacks based on the game timer. You need to whiff a punch, then counter his Boo for a star, and then buffer a gut punch into a star. If you got there fast enough, it will land. Otherwise, his uppercut will have a slightly faster delay and hit you first.
Odds are pretty high that this run will be obsoleted soon, either by me, or by several other really good players out there. I got this run in literally 7 minutes of effort, but tried a bit more and couldnt beat this tonight, so its quite a bit unoptimized compared to most of the stuff Ive uploaded recently. I also think this is the first video of this strategy out there, so this will be a pretty useful resource for runners out there!
Thanks for watching!")
![Punch Out!! (Wii) - Title Defense Soda Popinski [1:15.11]](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/OaYAWC7VBao/hqdefault.jpg "Punch Out!! (Wii) - Title Defense Soda Popinski [1:15.11]
Improved the previous record on TD Soda I set a while back by 2 frames. This currently stands at 1 frame from the TAS time, which is currently a 1:15.05. I havent played this game in months, but felt an itch to improve something, and TD Soda is usually the one I gravitate to if Im indecisive. It took an afternoon to get this time, although I grinded this fight a lot more heavily before I took a break from this game, the stats at the end are combined with the stats for the last time I did this fight.
Im not *back* at this game right now, its just Tyson is really stubborn and difficult, so I decided to go for something much much easier as a small break.
Lets get into the fight. TD Sodas pattern is pretty aggressive compared to his Contender counterpart. He throws 2 jabs to start, and the counter windows for these are completely different than in Contender. You have to wait until the end of the soda fizz noise before throwing the jab, otherwise youre not going to get the star. Once you collect both stars, unload them and wait for Soda to knock you down, but also keep in mind that you cannot throw ANY extra punches in this fight anywhere, otherwise he will do extra uppercuts in phases 2 and 3. Make sure Just like the other Soda fight, we need to use Champions Mode in order for him to knock Mac down repeatedly.
Once you get back up, Soda will throw 3 more jabs that you can counter for 3 more stars, so once you collect all 3, unload a triple star punch and let him knock you down again. When you get back up, you need to dodge Sodas jab and stun him with a single punch, then buffer a dodge into a quick dodge (which is holding dodge + up simultaneously), and buffer a jab to counter the bottle. Its actually random what side he pulls out the bottle on, and the side you punch on needs to match his side, so you need to react correctly to this before you commit to your punch! Once you get the star, immediately throw it and let Soda TKO you... and hopefully get the luck you need in order to recover from the TKO. The odds are estimated to be about 25%, but if you get it, Macs TKO animation will be louder, and mashing will get him to stand back up. Once you recover, counter Soda for a star, and the first knockdown with 2:18 left on the clock.
When he gets back up, you need to dodge his 4 uppercuts, then stun him and land 4 jabs, and follow up with a star for an instant knockdown. The instant knockdowns for this fight are quite a bit different than the ones for the Contender bout with Soda, because in Title Defense, Soda has a momentum mechanic where the more attacks you dodge in a row, the more jabs you can throw whenever you stun him.
So for example, the first time you dodge an attack an stun Soda, you will be able to throw 2 punches to start, but if you dodge his next attack without getting hit, then youll get 3, then 4, 5, 6, ect ect. This instant knockdown will only start working once you have at least 5 hits in a stun. If you want this knockdown to work when you have built up more punches in a stun, then youll need to throw the maximum amount of punches in a stun without him breaking out of it, then have your last punch be a star punch. This will require you to be keenly aware of exactly how many punches your stun is at currently in order to take advantage of this consistently if youre using this in a casual playthrough or something to that effect.
Anyways, when he gets back up, hell throw 5 uppercuts this time, assuming youve followed the punch route precisely up until this point. Dodge them all and stun him for 4 jabs, then finish off the stun with a gut punch (this saves exactly 0.36 ingame seconds, or 6 frames). Then, in order to finish off the fight, you need to land 2 counters to gain stars at the very end. These two punches are the most difficult in the entire fight because by phase 3, Sodas speed has reached its peak, meaning the frame window for these counters has shrunk considerably. These counters are both mandatorily 2-frame counters, making this a heartbreaking place to lose a run after youve gotten through the TKO recovery luck and are on a good pace.
Here are the stats for what times Ive been able to get on this fight recently...
1:15.83 - 1
1:15.65 - 2
1:15.59 - 2
1:15.53 - 3
1:15.47 - 5
1:15.41 - 3
1:15.35 - 1
1:15.29 - 5
1:15.23 - 3
1:15.17 - 1
Ive also gotten 100 TKO recoveries out of 309 attempts, giving me an approximate TKO recovery success rate of about 32.36%, which is significantly higher than what I was getting for when I did Contender Soda attempts to match the TAS time, as well as what I was getting when I set the 1:15.23. Not sure when Ill come back to this, since grinding off that last frame sounds pretty unfun. More likely than not, Ill probably let someone else take care of that haha.
Anyways, thanks for watching!")
![Punch Out!! (Wii) - Title Defense Soda Popinski [1:15.23]](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/OiaU9Gl07Rs/hqdefault.jpg "Punch Out!! (Wii) - Title Defense Soda Popinski [1:15.23]
Improved the previous record on TD Soda by a frame. This currently stands at 3 frames from the TAS time, which is currently a 1:15.05. Might continue with this off and on? Its going to be excruciatingly difficult to cut any more time off of this, because of the random TKO recoveries coupled with the mandatory 2 frame counters at the end. Its very difficult to hit those last 2 punches, let alone get the early frames on both.
Lets get into the fight. TD Sodas pattern is pretty aggressive compared to his Contender counterpart. He throws 2 jabs to start, and the counter windows for these are completely different than in Contender. You have to wait until the end of the soda fizz noise before throwing the jab, otherwise youre not going to get the star. Once you collect both stars, unload them and wait for Soda to knock you down, but also keep in mind that you cannot throw ANY extra punches in this fight anywhere, otherwise he will do extra uppercuts in phases 2 and 3. Make sure Just like the other Soda fight, we need to use Champions Mode in order for him to knock Mac down repeatedly.
Once you get back up, Soda will throw 3 more jabs that you can counter for 3 more stars, so once you collect all 3, unload a triple star punch and let him knock you down again. When you get back up, you need to dodge Sodas jab and stun him with a single punch, then buffer a dodge into a quick dodge (which is holding dodge + up simultaneously), and buffer a jab to counter the bottle. Its actually random what side he pulls out the bottle on, and the side you punch on needs to match his side, so you need to react correctly to this before you commit to your punch! Once you get the star, immediately throw it and let Soda TKO you... and hopefully get the luck you need in order to recover from the TKO. The odds are estimated to be about 25%, but if you get it, Macs TKO animation will be louder, and mashing will get him to stand back up. Once you recover, counter Soda for a star, and the first knockdown with 2:18 left on the clock.
When he gets back up, you need to dodge his 4 uppercuts, then stun him and land 4 jabs, and follow up with a star for an instant knockdown. The instant knockdowns for this fight are quite a bit different than the ones for the Contender bout with Soda, because in Title Defense, Soda has a momentum mechanic where the more attacks you dodge in a row, the more jabs you can throw whenever you stun him.
So for example, the first time you dodge an attack an stun Soda, you will be able to throw 2 punches to start, but if you dodge his next attack without getting hit, then youll get 3, then 4, 5, 6, ect ect. This instant knockdown will only start working once you have at least 5 hits in a stun. If you want this knockdown to work when you have built up more punches in a stun, then youll need to throw the maximum amount of punches in a stun without him breaking out of it, then have your last punch be a star punch. This will require you to be keenly aware of exactly how many punches your stun is at currently in order to take advantage of this consistently if youre using this in a casual playthrough or something to that effect.
Anyways, when he gets back up, hell throw 5 uppercuts this time, assuming youve followed the punch route precisely up until this point. Dodge them all and stun him for 4 jabs, then finish off the stun with a gut punch (this saves exactly 0.36 ingame seconds, or 6 frames). Then, in order to finish off this incredibly difficult and random fight, you need to land 2 counters to gain stars at the very end in order to finish him off. These two punches are the most difficult in the entire fight because by phase 3, Sodas speed has reached its peak, meaning the frame window for these counters has shrunk considerably. These counters are both mandatorily 2-frame counters, making this a heartbreaking place to lose a run after youve gotten through the TKO recovery luck and are on a good pace.
Here are the stats for what times Ive been able to get on this fight recently...
1:15.83 - 1
1:15.65 - 2
1:15.59 - 2
1:15.53 - 3
1:15.47 - 3
1:15.41 - 1
1:15.35 - 1
1:15.29 - 2
1:15.23 - 1
Ive also gotten 56 TKO recoveries out of 184 attempts, giving me an approximate TKO recovery success rate of about 30.43%, which is significantly higher than what I was getting for when I did Contender Soda attempts to match the TAS time.
Anyways, thanks for watching!")
![Super Punch-Out!! - Bob Charlie [00546] (PAL WR)](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/OtlPm8_8iV8/hqdefault.jpg "Super Punch-Out!! - Bob Charlie [00546] (PAL WR)
This run was done on an original Spanish Super Nintendo cartridge of Super Punch-Out, as well as an original PAL Super Nintendo 1chip console that was recapped and modded with the Borti RGB amp.
Bob Charlie is mostly known in the full game speedrun as that guy who makes you reset because he dances so often and makes the dizzy a bit harder to get consistently. The TAS strategy for Bob is honestly one of the easiest to execute in the game, and the only real opposition he has for you is an abundance of random dances to break out of the strategy.
To start the fight, dont press anything for the first frame of the fight, and then press Up+Y to throw a left jab during the second frame of the fight. This punch is the only punch in this strategy that determines your final time, since the rest of the punches are completely buffered, so if you do this one frame perfect, then congratulations! You just need the luck to cooperate from that point forward.
After you land the first punch, you need to buffer 3 more left jabs, then buffer a right jab, then two more left jabs to get Bob dizzy. With this strategy, Bob has the capability of sidestepping punches 1, 2, 3, 6 and 7 at 25% each. Punches 4 and 5 should be guaranteed, because Bob is attempting to throw 2 consecutive jabs during those punches of yours, and cannot commit to sidestepping during those.
As a sidenote, it technically doesnt matter where the right jab is in this phase 1, although its argued that its best thrown for either jabs 4 or 5 since hes committed to trying to hit you during those punches, and therefore may reduce the odds of him dancing away, since right jab is slightly slower. Just dont throw the right jab on punches #6 or #7, otherwise he can block you, because his move timer will be running during those 2 jabs, and it ends up coinciding with your final jab if the right jab ends up being either of those punches. Once you land the 7th jab, buffer a right gut punch into 2 consecutive uppercuts for an instant knockdown as Bob wanders back to the center of the ring.
For phase 3, all you have to do is hold Up+A and pray that Bob doesnt commit to the jab that he winds up for, and does a feint to the left, which has a 3/8 chance of happening. If he doesnt do that feint, then he just lands a jab before your uppercut can land, but if he does do that feint, then hes stuck in an animation in which he cannot dodge, and your uppercut will land and knock him out for good.
The total odds for this strategy to work comes down to the following:
Bob not dancing during punches 1,2,3,6,7: (3/4)^5 = 243/1024
Bob doing a feint at the start of phase 2: 3/8
Total odds: (243/1024)*(3/8) = 729/8192 which is approximately 1 in 11.24, or about 8.9%
This happens to also be the fastest possible fight in the entire Punch-Out series, including every region of every game officially released by Nintendo, and it mostly has to do with how the clock works in the PAL version, as this strategy is completely identical to its NTSC counterpart. If youd like to compare the two, you can check out my NTSC fight here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_snYeeSOBo
Anyways, thanks for watching!")
![Super Punch-Out!! - Bob Charlie [00550] (NTSC WR)](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/P_snYeeSOBo/hqdefault.jpg "Super Punch-Out!! - Bob Charlie [00550] (NTSC WR)
This run was done on an original Super Nintendo cartridge of Super Punch-Out, as well as an original Super Nintendo 1chip console that was recapped and modded with the Voultar RGB amp to restore the correct color intensity. For some more in depth information about my general RGB setup, you can check out this pastebin here: https://pastebin.com/TtXx1PQx
Additionally, Ive decided to include a non-stretched version of this fight in an unlisted video. If youd like to learn more about why Im including this too, you can check out the description in the second video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFtZ07BlEIw
Bob Charlie is mostly known in the full game speedrun as that guy who makes you reset because he dances so often and makes the dizzy a bit harder to get consistently. The TAS strategy for Bob is honestly one of the easiest to execute in the game, and the only real opposition he has for you is an abundance of random dances to break out of the strategy.
To start the fight, dont press anything for the first frame of the fight, and then press Up+Y to throw a left jab during the second frame of the fight. This punch is the *only* punch in this strategy that determines your final time, since the rest of the punches are completely buffered, so if you do this one frame perfect, then congratulations! You just need the luck to cooperate from that point forward.
After you land the first punch, you need to buffer 3 more left jabs, then buffer a right jab, then two more left jabs to get Bob dizzy. With this strategy, Bob has the capability of sidestepping punches 1, 2, 3, 6 and 7. Punches 4 and 5 should be guaranteed, because Bob is attempting to throw 2 consecutive jabs during those punches of yours, and cannot commit to sidestepping during those.
As a sidenote, it technically doesnt matter where the right jab is in this phase 1, although its argued that its best thrown for either jabs 4 or 5 since hes committed to trying to hit you during those punches, and therefore may reduce the odds of him dancing away, since right jab is slightly slower. Just dont throw the right jab on punches #6 or #7, otherwise he can block you, because his move timer will be running during those 2 jabs, and it ends up coinciding with your final jab if the right jab ends up being either of those punches.
Once you land that 7th jab, immediately buffer a left jab, two right gut punches, and finally an uppercut to instantly knock him down. Because of the thing that happened with my Bald Bull fight, I decided to check the rest of the the applicable fights for their super knockdown animations in phase 1 to verify which one is faster. For Bob, knocking him down with an uppercut saves 17 frames of real time compared to knocking him down with a low super.
For phase 3, all you have to do is hold Up+A and pray that Bob doesnt commit to the jab that he winds up for, and does a feint to the left. If he doesnt do that feint, then he just lands a jab before your uppercut can land, but if he *does* do that feint, then hes stuck in an animation in which he cannot dodge, and your uppercut will land and knock him out for good.
Also, since I know someone is going to ask about it, the leaderboard for this fight on this cartridge is kind of silly, because I initially matched the TAS on Bob when I was still running this game on Wii Virtual Console, so I never actively attempted matching the TAS on this fight with my zallard1 file when I got this cartridge. However, I did match the TAS a couple of times in full game attempts, which obviously by now, Ive erased those files long long ago.
When you delete a save file that had leaderboard entries, this game will take away the original file name from all of those leaderboard entries, and replace it with a random name from a pool of several that the game likes to use.
For the 2 times I matched the TAS in full game runs, they got reverted to *Thunder and *Lance when those attempt files got deleted, with *Thunder just permanently being in 1st place because of it, which is pretty funny. The other 3 attempts that were a frame off of the TAS in full game attempts got reverted to *Darren *Bruce and *Tony in that order. Those ones can be taken off the list if I filled the board with 5.50 times, but *Thunder and *Lance will never ever be dethroned.
Anyways, thanks for watching!")
![Punch Out!! (Wii) - Credits [1,042,500 points] (WR)](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/PlAayTtPHTo/hqdefault.jpg "Punch Out!! (Wii) - Credits [1,042,500 points] (WR)
Before I get into the details of this run, I should mention a few things about where Ive been for the last several months. I took a hiatus from the speedrunning community for a little while for various personal reasons. Around early November, I was diagnosed with pneumonia, which became a lot to deal with on top of everything else Ive already been going through. I am past the infection thankfully, but the healing process for my lungs and respiratory system has been incredibly slow and painful for me.
Im still coughing very frequently and still have chest pains often. Im also constantly fatigued and take random naps frequently throughout the day, and have troubles falling asleep at night due to coughing myself awake if I accidentally lay in such a way that irritates my lungs (colder temperature is also definitely a factor too).
Im hesitant to go to the hospital as much as possible to minimize exposure to COVID in the overpacked hospitals here, so its hard to tell if my pain is worth the risk of exposure. Please wear a mask, social distance, and take this pandemic *seriously* always; its the only chance we have to beat this.
I just really wanted to let everyone here know whats been going on with me in some way, so I decided the Credits minigame would be a low stress; low execution Punch Out video to upload in the meantime. Ill be trying to slowly get back into the speedrunning community as my symptoms from the post-pneumonia healing process subside, but I wont push myself. In the meantime, expect a few more relatively light execution videos like this one until I get better.
So, the credits mini-game WR has been 1,040,500 for the last decade. As far as Im aware, a million points have only been broken 3 times ever, and all 3 of them were from me lol.
This minigame is all about clicking names that have a letter flipped around incorrectly. Youll get points based on how many of those you fix in a row. Once you find the name of a boxer thats in the game (i.e. Glass Joe, Bald Bull, ect), you will need to hit that name to bank your score that youve been accumulating.
The bank score can be modeled by the polynomial (125x^2) + 375x where x represents the number of boxer names youve clicked in a row. Thus, because this is a parabolic function, in order to maximize your score, you want either long combos of names in a row before banking your score with a boxer name, or clicking a boxer name alone.
There is one caveat to this though. There is a multiplier that will start at x1, but once you hit your first boxer name, that multiplier climbs to x2, then subsequent boxer names will increase it to x4, x6, x8, and finally x10. The rough idea for the first 4 boxer names is to try to hit those boxer names as early as possible, such that the combo of misspelled names will have higher worth than if you were to hit them early. Then, once you hit the x10 multiplier, the goal will now shift to you wanting to hit names in long strings no matter what.
The exact calculation of when you bank your score is that it will take your current bank score, then add 2000 points to it, which is a fixed bonus that you always get from any boxer name, then it will multiply that number by your current multiplier (1, 2, 4, 6, 8, or 10), and add that result to your current score. In the scenario of hitting a boxer name when your bank score is zero, it will just be the 2000 point boxer bonus multiplied by the current multiplier.
Phew, now that all of that is out of the way, I can actually talk about the run itself. So the reason why this minigame truly sucks to optimize is that the amount of names and boxer names that appear are *completely random* in every way. The boxer names are spaced out in roughly the same-ish areas, but thats kind of it. The amount of flipped letter names you get can vary wildly. I didnt keep track of stats this time, but I remember tallying stuff for this back in 2010, and you can get like 10+ extra names sometimes in some runs, and get completely robbed in others. There appeared to be no rhyme or reason to it.
Despite this run containing a 10,500 point mistake by missing a name before it got hit by the gloves at the top at 0:25, this run was EXTREMELY lucky. I got super bailed out by more than average amounts of names spawning in really fortunate combo heavy areas. Sucks that I missed that one name, mainly just misjudged how fast I could get to those names at the top and took a greedy risk.
Definitely beatable even if I got the missed name, but the luck is really horrible for this minigame, even if your only goal is just attempting to break a million. Anyways, hope everyone enjoyed the thorough description of the credits minigame, as well as the run!")
![Super Punch Out!! - Heike Kagero [01049] (TKO strategy)](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Pq-8WDZRiOI/hqdefault.jpg "Super Punch Out!! - Heike Kagero [01049] (TKO strategy)
This run was done on an original Super Nintendo cartridge of Super Punch-Out, as well as an original Super Nintendo 1chip console that was recapped and modded with the Voultar RGB amp to restore the correct color intensity. For some more in depth information about my general RGB setup, you can check out this pastebin here: https://pastebin.com/TtXx1PQx
So, lixunis found a great strategy (with the bizarre name Brunch of Eggs and Ham and Stuff) for full game runs that actually improves on the old TAS of 1060 by a few frames (to 1052 in fact).
Phase 1 is super easy here, because you just need to hold up for the first frame of the fight, then buffer 6 left guts, 2 right jabs, then quick duck into low super to get him to the mat. This is the classic phase one thats been optimal for years and years as far as a quick first knockdown goes anyways.
For phase 2, by buffering a low left punch to interrupt Heikes first hook, you can set his guard to be high on the next punch by holding Up until the first frame Heike gets out of his recovery animation and becomes idle again. Then you just buffer 1 more left gut punch, into rapid punches, which effectively you just hold A and repress it as soon as you see your character wind up to throw a super.
Heike will get dizzy off of this, then you just need to throw a left gut into a low super to knock him down again. For lixuniss strategy, he does low rapid punches for phase 3, which gets the 1052.
Now, I ended up playing around with finding backup strategies for missing the rapid punches in phase 3 the other night, because a good friend of mine, Hootey, has lost some great runs on great paces because hitting the rapids can be pretty strict and unforgiving if you miss.
When I was loading the savestate to mess with backups, I would also just mess around randomly sometimes, and stumbled into an adjustment that not only gets rid of the rapid punches altogether, but is *faster* by 2 frames! This was never found before, because this low super strategy working is a direct consequence of the new strategy that lixunis found, since phase 3 has a lower refill here compared to normal.
Lixunis found a perfect buffer for this new phase 3, which involves a quick left dodge, into a quick right dodge, into a low super. Its important to note that double left quick dodge does *not* work, because Heikes hook hitbox lingers for an extra frame on the left side, probably because thats where the punch is coming from.
For this buffer, Im going with just holding left until the fight starts, then double tapping right as soon as my character moves, since tapping the opposite direction also gets you a quick dodge & the 2nd tap gets you to start your next dodge. From there, I just quickly hit A and its all good.
Anyways, thanks for watching!")
![Super Punch-Out!! - Mad Clown [901] (Original Resolution)](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Q1bddZn6DtA/hqdefault.jpg "Super Punch-Out!! - Mad Clown [901] (Original Resolution)
Super Punch-Out!! - Mad Clown [901] (Original Resolution)")
