Uploaded December 2025 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago
In this powerful fireside chat from the Bitcoin for Corporations Symposium at Bitcoin MENA December 2025, Michael Saylor Executive Chairman of Strategy and Simon Gerovich CEO of Metaplanet, explain why public companies holding massive Bitcoin treasuries are quietly building the next generation of global credit markets. Metaplanet, now the second-largest corporate Bitcoin holder worldwide and Japan’s clear leader, has transformed from a forgotten micro-cap into a national phenomenon with over 212,000 new Japanese shareholders discovering Bitcoin through the company.
Japan sits on more than $12 trillion of idle cash earning virtually zero while its credit markets remain asleep. Simon reveals how Metaplanet is bridging that gap with “Mercury” – a newly launched perpetual preferred paying 4.9% in yen with equity convertibility and the upcoming “Mars” adjustable-rate securities designed to deliver stable, high-yield “digital credit” backed by Bitcoin. In a country where money-market funds paying 0.5% are considered exciting, these instruments offer 10× the yield with Bitcoin upside, turning sleepy bank deposits into rocket fuel for savers.
Saylor lays out the bigger picture: Bitcoin treasury companies are creating superior financial products that strip out volatility and deliver permanent yield, the foundation for tomorrow’s high-powered digital money. From perpetual preferreds to Bitcoin-backed bank accounts paying 5–8% with near-zero risk, the blueprint is now being executed in real time across continents. This rare on-stage conversation between the two largest Bitcoin treasury pioneers is essential viewing for anyone tracking the corporate adoption wave.
Timestamps:
0:00 - Introduction and Mutual Inspiration
0:20 - Metaplanet Thanks MicroStrategy for Leadership
1:30 - Bitcoin as Digital Capital and Issuing Credit
2:20 - State of Japanese Credit Markets: Zero Yield Everywhere
3:50 - $7 Trillion in Cash, No Options for Japanese Savers
5:24 - Metaplanet Launches Mercury: 4.9% Perpetual Preferred
6:25 - Upcoming Mars: Metaplanet Adjustable Rate Securities
7:06 - Sleepy Preferred Stock Market in Japan
8:12 - Rock-Concert Shareholder Meetings and Onboarding Japanese Bitcoiners
10:01 - Four Innovations Behind Digital Credit Instruments
12:04 - How Metaplanet Plans Continuous Issuance in Japan
13:13 - Why Mars (Stretch-style) is the Real Game-Changer
14:52 - Focus on Dominating Yen-Denominated Digital Credit
16:26 - Simon Asks Michael About Middle East Trip
17:00 - Middle East Loves Tech + Money = Perfect Bitcoin Fit
18:11 - Core Message: Digital Capital → Digital Credit → Treasury Equity
19:30 - Big, Bigger, and Biggest Ideas Explained
20:31 - Bigger Idea: Banks Custody Bitcoin and Offer Credit
21:56 - Biggest Idea: High-Powered Digital Money Bank Accounts
24:27 - The Dream: 8% Yield, Zero Volatility, Regulated Digital Bank
26:20 - The Lightsaber of Money: Infinite Sharpe Ratio
27:10 - Who Will Be the 21st-Century Switzerland?
27:55 - Closing Remarks and Shared Journey
#MichaelSaylor #Bitcoin #MSTR #MTPLF #3350.T
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In this powerful fireside chat from the Bitcoin for Corporations Symposium at Bitcoin MENA December 2025, Michael Saylor Executive Chairman of Strategy and Simon Gerovich CEO of Metaplanet, explain why public companies holding massive Bitcoin treasuries are quietly building the next generation of global credit markets. Metaplanet, now the second-largest corporate Bitcoin holder worldwide and Japan’s clear leader, has transformed from a forgotten micro-cap into a national phenomenon with over 212,000 new Japanese shareholders discovering Bitcoin through the company.
Japan sits on more than $12 trillion of idle cash earning virtually zero while its credit markets remain asleep. Simon reveals how Metaplanet is bridging that gap with “Mercury” – a newly launched perpetual preferred paying 4.9% in yen with equity convertibility and the upcoming “Mars” adjustable-rate securities designed to deliver stable, high-yield “digital credit” backed by Bitcoin. In a country where money-market funds paying 0.5% are considered exciting, these instruments offer 10× the yield with Bitcoin upside, turning sleepy bank deposits into rocket fuel for savers.
Saylor lays out the bigger picture: Bitcoin treasury companies are creating superior financial products that strip out volatility and deliver permanent yield, the foundation for tomorrow’s high-powered digital money. From perpetual preferreds to Bitcoin-backed bank accounts paying 5–8% with near-zero risk, the blueprint is now being executed in real time across continents. This rare on-stage conversation between the two largest Bitcoin treasury pioneers is essential viewing for anyone tracking the corporate adoption wave.
Timestamps:
0:00 - Introduction and Mutual Inspiration
0:20 - Metaplanet Thanks MicroStrategy for Leadership
1:30 - Bitcoin as Digital Capital and Issuing Credit
2:20 - State of Japanese Credit Markets: Zero Yield Everywhere
3:50 - $7 Trillion in Cash, No Options for Japanese Savers
5:24 - Metaplanet Launches Mercury: 4.9% Perpetual Preferred
6:25 - Upcoming Mars: Metaplanet Adjustable Rate Securities
7:06 - Sleepy Preferred Stock Market in Japan
8:12 - Rock-Concert Shareholder Meetings and Onboarding Japanese Bitcoiners
10:01 - Four Innovations Behind Digital Credit Instruments
12:04 - How Metaplanet Plans Continuous Issuance in Japan
13:13 - Why Mars (Stretch-style) is the Real Game-Changer
14:52 - Focus on Dominating Yen-Denominated Digital Credit
16:26 - Simon Asks Michael About Middle East Trip
17:00 - Middle East Loves Tech + Money = Perfect Bitcoin Fit
18:11 - Core Message: Digital Capital → Digital Credit → Treasury Equity
19:30 - Big, Bigger, and Biggest Ideas Explained
20:31 - Bigger Idea: Banks Custody Bitcoin and Offer Credit
21:56 - Biggest Idea: High-Powered Digital Money Bank Accounts
24:27 - The Dream: 8% Yield, Zero Volatility, Regulated Digital Bank
26:20 - The Lightsaber of Money: Infinite Sharpe Ratio
27:10 - Who Will Be the 21st-Century Switzerland?
27:55 - Closing Remarks and Shared Journey
#MichaelSaylor #Bitcoin #MSTR #MTPLF #3350.T
MICHAEL SAYLOR PLAYLIST:
youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9kWc18VnvpnGN86NhKKFvvsjZKRLw4ik
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