Uploaded February 2026 | Updated September 2026, 3 days ago
This week, Brett DiNovi and Lei Yang join the show to discuss the path forward for L2s. We deep dive into why we need L2s, MegaETH's 2026 roadmap, how to build a successful ecosystem, lessons learned from building MegaETH, and more. Enjoy!
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Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
01:57 Vitalik’s Post On L2s
05:30 Do We Need L2s?
11:52 What’s MegaETHs Moat?
29:00 Ethereum’s Security Value
33:53 Coinbase Ad
34:38 DAS plug
35:03 Value Accrual & What's Next For MegaETH?
51:49 How To Build An Ecosystem?
1:09:14 Lessons Learned From Building MegaETH
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Disclaimer: Nothing said on Empire is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Santiago, Jason, Rob and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.
This week, Brett DiNovi and Lei Yang join the show to discuss the path forward for L2s. We deep dive into why we need L2s, MegaETH's 2026 roadmap, how to build a successful ecosystem, lessons learned from building MegaETH, and more. Enjoy!
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Follow Brett: https://x.com/bread_
Follow Lei: https://x.com/yangl1996
Follow Santi: https://x.com/santiagoroel
Follow Empire: https://x.com/theempirepod
--
Coinbase crypto-backed loans, powered by Morpho, enable you to take out loans at competitive rates using crypto as collateral. Rates are typically 4% to 8%. Borrow up to $5M using BTC as collateral and up to $1M using ETH as collateral.
Manage crypto-backed loans directly in the Coinbase app with ease. Learn more here:
coinbase.com/onchain/borrow/get-started?utm_campaign=0126_defi-borrow_blockworks_empire&marketId=0x9103c3b4e834476c9a62ea009ba2c884ee42e94e6e314a26f04d312434191836&utm_source=empire
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Join us at DAS (Digital Asset Summit) in New York City this March! Follow the link below to grab your ticket, and use code EMPIRE200 to get $200 off your ticket!
blockworks.co/event/digital-asset-summit-nyc-2026
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Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
01:57 Vitalik’s Post On L2s
05:30 Do We Need L2s?
11:52 What’s MegaETHs Moat?
29:00 Ethereum’s Security Value
33:53 Coinbase Ad
34:38 DAS plug
35:03 Value Accrual & What's Next For MegaETH?
51:49 How To Build An Ecosystem?
1:09:14 Lessons Learned From Building MegaETH
--
Disclaimer: Nothing said on Empire is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Santiago, Jason, Rob and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.
