Uploaded December 2022 | Updated September 2026, 20 hours ago
Ben Watkins of Real Atheology joins me to discuss the meager moral fruits argument, a few objections to the argument, and why we're interested in it in the first place.
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00:00 Housekeeping
1:41 To the Christians in my life
3:43 Introducing Ben from RA
6:06 Why I’m interested in the MMFA
9:49 The Meager Moral Fruits Argument
42:51 Open Hangout
Ben Watkins of Real Atheology joins me to discuss the meager moral fruits argument, a few objections to the argument, and why we're interested in it in the first place.
Subscribe to Real Atheology on YouTube and on iTunes podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/real-atheology/id1200545713
A few resources on the argument: emersongreenblog.wordpress.com/2022/12/24/meager-moral-fruits
Follow us on Twitter @waldenpod @RealAtheology @SpeedWatkins
Support the podcast at patreon.com/counter
https://linktr.ee/emersongreen
00:00 Housekeeping
1:41 To the Christians in my life
3:43 Introducing Ben from RA
6:06 Why I’m interested in the MMFA
9:49 The Meager Moral Fruits Argument
42:51 Open Hangout
![11 Objections to Panpsychism - Answered
We respond to eleven common objections to panpsychism.
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00:00 Introduction
05:20 (1) “The incredulous stare,” or an argument from strangeness, which appeals to our common sense and argues that panpsychism is forbiddingly counter-intuitive.
8:54 (2) Falsifiability. Isn’t panpsychism unfalsifiable?
11:03 (3) Isn’t physics entirely on the side of materialism?
17:33 (4) Wouldn’t panpsychism force us to add a particle to the standard model?
24:50 Interlude — a few advantages of panpsychism
27:13 (5) Pan-nifty-ism. Dan Dennett’s reductio cuts to the heart of the issue: is Nagelian consciousness reducible? Is what-it-is-like-ness analogous to élan vital or fluidity?
29:38 (6) Mysterianism. Should we even expect consciousness to be rationally intelligible?
33:36 (7) The woo accusation
35:29 (8) Is [insert inanimate object here] conscious?
36:19 (9) Won’t science eventually solve consciousness?
38:47 (10) Doesn’t panpsychism open the door to parapsychology and other pseudoscience?
42:31 (11) The Combination Problem. Widely considered to be the most serious difficulty facing panpsychism, the Combination Problem deserves a little extra time. The exact nature of the problem depends on your view of fundamental reality (the parts that are being combined) and the self (what is being formed through combination). We also discuss Galileo, the fusion view, Giulio Tononi’s Integrated Information Theory, and a few other related issues. 11 Objections to Panpsychism - Answered](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/CVquyZepZxM/mqdefault.jpg)









